Zac Efron's Latest Workout Pic is So Hot

Zac Efron's Latest Workout Pic is So Hot

Zac Efron shows off his strength in a new shirtless workout selfie posted to his Twitter account over the weekend.

“Training like Teddy,” the 27-year-old actor captioned the photo, referring to his frat boy character from Neighbors 2.

PHOTOS: Check out the latest pics of Zac Efron

“Taking over @NeighborsMovie’s @Snapchat TOMORROW! Follow “NeighborsMovie” for exclusive updates from #Neighbors2 set,” Zac added. Make sure to follow along!

Pictured inside: Zac wearing a yellow tee while filming a football tailgating scene for Neighbors 2 on Tuesday (September 22) in Atlanta, Ga.

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  • OK

    Zac looks so hot in the pic. but I believe the workout ic is an older one. Have to say he looks great in the other pics. also

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  • OK

    I guess I will start posting here (If anyone cares) until I and my friends can access the “Rehab. post”.

    • Just My PO

      I don’t think it hurts to change it up and start aftesh in a new space anyways :)

  • OK

    My heart and prayers goes out to the friends and loved ones of those injured and killed at the community college in Oregon.

  • OK

    Leaving with co-workers for lunch .
    More shortly.

    • lauren

      @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
      is this the new place to post on?

      • OK

        Just temporary till we can access the other site again.
        For some reason some of my friends and I still can’t access the “Rehab. site.”

        • lauren

          @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
          whats wrong with the phone option?

          • OK

            I only work certain sites with computers ( Most my friends too)
            Other sites we use phones.
            Especially at work. I can work on the computer and easily check sites and the internet but we are not suppose to be using phones ,Ipads, or recording devices during working hours.
            That is why when I go to Las Vegas or travel I borrow my friends Laptop .

  • Lolo11

    Are we moving to here?

    • lauren

      @disqus_GeyHC0NJ6G:disqus
      prolly till thank for the support post comes back.

      • Lolo11

        Ok thanks Lauren.

        • lauren

          @disqus_GeyHC0NJ6G:disqus
          im not 100z5 sure tho.

      • OK

        Thanks for answering while I was gone.

    • OK

      I can only see a few posts from posters with an open profile that post on other sites first. Sorry for the inconvenience .
      For some reason most my friends can’t access the Rehab. site.
      I can only see a few posts from posters with an open profile that post on other sites first. Sorry for the inconvenience .

      • Lolo11

        It’s no inconvenience, just as long as I can keep up to where we all have gone to lol.

        • OK

          Thanks you are so sweet :)

        • Emily Dresar

          Thanks for letting me know that we moved here, I hope it’s more convenient and we can continue our convos here.

          • Lolo11

            No worries :)

          • OK

            Happy to see you here :)
            BTW love the icon

          • Emily Dresar

            Likewise. :)

          • Emily Dresar

            Same, it’s one of my favorite Zac’s looks ever.
            I loved the “Men’s Health” photoshoot in 2012.
            I think this is from that time (after he made TLO).

  • OK

    Two meetings today one down and heading for the other now.
    More shortly.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    is anyone gonna post the snapchat of zac giving a cake to sami?

    • Lala

      there are only cakes on the table are two pies and three pancakes, he is talking about each of the cakes she blows out the candles and then he says: happy birthday … it seems as if he were wishing Happy Birthday to a sister, they looks more like friends is like when he wished happy birthday to ashley

      • lauren

        @disqus_F0IPFZhne3:disqus
        that’s it?
        why r they only 10 seconds long.

        • Lala

          yeah that’s it, remember she only wants to show us Zac is celabrating with her, perhaps even she bought the cakes for herself to everyone thinks was Zac who took them for her

          but the day still is not over so we can see more of her (show) celebration

          • lauren

            @lala
            well at some point zac has to film?

          • Emily Dresar

            Zac was probably there for only those 20 seconds it took to take those two Snaps and he was gone…she wants us to think they had a long private celebration as usual. :P
            I bet she’s now eating all the cakes and cupcakes herself… :D

            But unfortunately, @Lala:disqus is right and the day’s not over yet, who knows what else we’ll get to see.

          • lauren

            @ok
            It’s 7 in Atlanta

          • Lala

            But we have to remember that all is staged

          • Lala

            Yeah but as I said he has to continue the PR show

          • lauren

            @lala
            U know Sami wants to be in la and party

          • Lala

            Yeah I know but she has to pretend be a good girl :p

      • lauren

        @lala
        those are pancakes? they look like cup-cakes?

        • Lala

          well you understand me LOL

          • lauren

            @lala
            why does zac sound terrible?

          • OK

            He does sound funny doesn’t he? Maybe he was yelling in the movie ( For scene) or something and is a bit horse?

          • Emily Dresar

            Actually I was thinking his birthday wish sounded like he’s making fun of her. Seriously :D

          • OK

            That could be, it would make me happy :)

          • Emily Dresar

            Oh yeeeeah.
            Same. ;)

          • OK

            ;)

          • Lala

            And her smile is so stupid..

          • Emily Dresar

            All of her is stupid so that doesn’t surprise me.

            I hate when women are giggling like that to make men feel like they’re the funniest persons ever. And I feel that it’s exactly what she’s doing when Zac is talking (or when she was riding his back in that disgusting Snapchat with push-ups).

          • Lala

            I agree she is a shame, sounds as a stupid girl who tries to get along with someone

          • Just My PO

            How so?

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why r they in his ttaielr with so many cakes? Did Zac buy desert for s family of five?

          • OK

            I’m sure they are going to share with a few people there like Q or others. Maybe they brought them and not Zac?
            Perhaps several different people brought cakes and cupcakes for her?

          • lauren

            @ok
            There’s only two of them and I doubt Sami will eat all of it let alone eat it . I’m surprised she’s not in la parting it tbh u know she wants to

          • OK

            We only see what they want us to see. However I bet you are right about wanting to party with her friend but she gets more PR and attention by having Zac wish her happy birthday.
            I can see all the sites they will send the Snapchat to.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why don’t her friends just fly to la?

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why don’t her fiends just fly Atlanta

          • OK

            That I don’t know. Maybe some are there or they will fly there this weekend ? (Better yet she leave tomorrow to party in L.A. with them.)

          • lauren

            @ok
            There all like can’t wait to celebrate its like fly down?

          • OK

            Maybe they will (Anything for a party) but I’m still hoping She goes to L.A. or NYC to party. The last thing Zac needs is to be at another weekend party.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why does Zac sound legit awful with the video? Also I would not be surprised if there’s a blind tomorow

          • OK

            I don’t know why he sounds that way but like you said earlier I worry about him.
            It wouldn’t surprise me at all if we get a blind within a day or two.

          • lauren

            @ok
            He sounds terrible and why does Zac have like bunch of deserts for her????????????????

          • OK

            Like I said before his voice kind of worries me and I’m sure the desserts are not just for her.
            BTW I love your emojis

          • lauren

            @ok
            lol thanks.
            like it sounds like he’s been sleepng and sami has been hiding out?

          • OK

            You are welcome .That could be or they could be seeing others when isn’t around. Just like they do in L.A..
            After all she let that guy touch her boob in NYC. the pic. with the dealer. CDAN did say she was hooking up there.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So why is she favoring every tweet like a 12 yr old

          • OK

            Because she acts like a 12 year old school girl.

          • lauren

            @ok
            To show she wins?

          • OK

            No, so she can get all the attention now while she can. She knows that the PR will end.
            Even if Zac is still not sober fans will start blaming her for not helping.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Since Sami got the attention she wanted witch was being with Zac on her bday will they break up now?

          • OK

            I would love for that to happen but I would guess we will get a little more of this before they split.

          • lauren

            @ok
            When is it happening tho? Cus it’s Eros how Sami was missing yesterday on set and today she’s there in the moment present

          • OK

            That is the thing with her. She could of ben anywhere with anyone yesterday and then today on her birthday she pops up again.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Where has she been? Hiding????????????

          • OK

            I don’t know. However she seem not to be around unless I missed something.

          • lauren

            @ok
            like she’s literally been hiding and all of the sudden she’s out hello

          • OK

            e she was working on one of those 12,000,000 secret project she keeps talking about and we don’t see.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Again she wins

          • OK

            It may look that way now but remember Blindgossip. , you can’t believe anything she says and the relationship is completely fake (PR)

          • lauren

            @ok
            I know but she wins ??????

          • OK

            Like I said for now it may look that way but when this is over she will have to stand on her own.
            that is just the way it is with PR situations.

          • lauren

            @ok
            is it true that sami and zac r growing apart?

          • OK

            From what my friends have told me I would say yes.
            Even though it is PR they argue over things and as disgusting as last weeks Snapchats are, my friend said Zac was furious over the pics. from NYC. (With the dealer) So was part of his team.

          • lauren

            @ok
            if they are. why does it seem like they are not? so zac is annoyed with sami over her stupid stuff she does and sami doesnt care ? sami is just not agreeing with zac and not wanting to leave because she’s wants attention?

          • lauren

            @ok
            how r they always aruging if there are snaps of them looking happy?

          • Just My PO

            LOL I love this. It’s true, all this hype yet we don’t see anything, because there probably is nothing. She’s a paid companion that’s the job, she’s just implying she has jobs lined up as people are waking up

          • Lala

            Maybe because is tired, but he have to continue the PR show with that opportunist

          • lauren

            @lala
            Why is Sami hair thinning

  • SERIOUSLY

    LOL, looks like the birthday show has started… Sami just posted a couple of Snapchats of her “birthday celebrations” one which is Zac talking “her through the best strategy to blow out her candles on her 2 cakes”… and another one of her actually blowing out the candles with Zac recording it and saying “Yaay! Happy Brithday.” Looks like they want people to think they are having a “low key celebration in their joint hotel room”. LOL at that… Maybe this is just me and maybe I am reading too much into it all, but Zac´s voice in the Snapchat recording actually sounds slightly off… a little slurpy at times… but then again, maybe it´s just me. JMO

    • Emily Dresar

      You have Snapchat? I still wanna see it, so I hope someone posts it on Twitter soon. :)

      • SERIOUSLY

        I got one for the day Zac´s Neighbors takeover was supposed to happen, yeah. And then I ended up so disappointed that I didn´t even use it when it actually happened… LOL I just saw people on Twitter talking about the videos on Sami´s Snapchat and wanted to check them out, so I reactivated my account, but I´ll deactivate it again later. I don´t really use it. LOL

      • SERIOUSLY

        A fan account just posted both videos on Twitter as well, if you wanna check it out.

        • Emily Dresar

          Thanks, I’ll check it out right now. :D

        • Emily Dresar

          LOL, you were right, his voice is weird in that one.

          • SERIOUSLY

            The other one is up on the same account, too. And I don´t know, to me his voice just sounds so slurpy… BTW, she also pretty much favorited every Tweet about her birthday as expected… LOL

          • Emily Dresar

            Yeah, I just saw the other “strategy” one too. :) LOL. And her laugh is so annoying, she obviously has nothing better to do than laugh at everything he says, maybe that’s why he still likes to keep her around. :D

          • SERIOUSLY

            Yeah, probably. And to think this is probably just the start of those “celebrations”… oh well…

          • Lala

            her laugh is so annoying, and her style, her poses, her open mouth, her open legs, her smile, her silly face, herself is so annoying…

          • Emily Dresar

            Agree, and still think it’s better to hear her laugh than talk, to be pretty honest. ;P

          • Lala

            LOL! So true

          • Just My PO

            Yep you covered it all :p

          • Lala

            LOL thanks :D

    • Lala

      without mentioning that they he looks as if he were wishing Happy Birthday to a sister, they looks more like friends is like when he wished happy birthday to ashley

      • SERIOUSLY

        True.

      • OK

        I agree on that.

      • Kitkat

        theres no intimiacy there. at all

        • Lala

          Absolutely true

      • Kitkat

        theres no intimiacy there. at all

    • lauren

      @disqus_uBjyfK9r3N:disqus
      they are in his trailer and sami’s hair looks like its thinning and she’s wearing zac’s tore up shirt.

      • SERIOUSLY

        Yeah, I just noticed that she is wearing that ol´ shirt. LOL at that.

      • Lala

        i think righ now that shirt is hers, because i imagine zac no longer wanted that shirt, it’s most her style of vagrant and homeless girl

        • lauren

          @lala
          Why hasn’t Sami Launch her buiensS yet?

          • Lala

            it seems that her SMV is not working at all LOL

    • Emily Dresar

      I don’t think his voice sounds so slurpy, I actually think he sounds sexy when he’s explaining the strategy. :P (once again, I love his deep voice) But yeah, that doesn’t exclude being “off” at the same time.

      • SERIOUSLY

        It´s not the deep voice that sounds off to me… but yeah, maybe it´s just me then.

    • OK

      Thanks for the info. and I totally agree that his voice sounds off.
      Happy to see you here.

      • SERIOUSLY

        Thanks. Happy we found a way to continue our conversation on here, hopefully the other thread will be back up again soon.

        • OK

          You are welcome and I’m happy too. This happened once before on the old “Saint Tropez” post.
          Only a very few could access it for a few days.
          It took about a week before everyone was able to access it again.

          • SERIOUSLY

            I didn´t know that, but then maybe this will be like that and it´ll be back up in a few days. So strange, though. Well, hopefully it´ll get back to normal soon ad in the meantime this is a good solution for everyone, I think.

          • Emily Dresar

            Maybe there were too many posts already (over 46k or so) and the site just crashed?

          • SERIOUSLY

            It´s possible. I guess we´ll have to wait and see if it goes back up in a few days and starts working again normally, if not then I guess we can always move to on here or elsewhere longterm when needed. I´m sure we´ll find a way to make it work and keep the conversation going. :)

          • Just My PO

            It’s a lot of chatter Huh?! So maybe there is a limit

          • OK

            That is what I’m hoping for . I do hope everyone is O.K. with this. I was missing reading everyone yesterday.

          • SERIOUSLY

            It´s not really much of a problem, so no worries about it.

          • OK

            Thank you. :)

          • SERIOUSLY

            You´re welcome. :)

  • Emily Dresar

    The German fan is def crazy, she’s hating Sami on one account and wishing her happy birthday and shipping her with Zac like the blinded fans on the other. LOLOLOL

    • Emily Dresar

      Yet I’d like to point out that no one’s buying it, and that’s maybe the only “happy birthday” Tweet Sami is not going to favorite. :P

    • OK

      LOL thanks for the info..

  • What a laugh

    Has the Welcome Wagon arrived yet?

    I guess some of you got my comments concerning the “8 pack”, the widened neck, possible steroid use (which I had mentioned some time back), etc since I received replies back from you.

    I haven’t been able to access the other site either.

    • SERIOUSLY

      I saw your comments earlier and even though I didn´t reply back, I did upvote them because I agreed with what you said 100% and thought it was an interesting conversation to read. I, myself, just didn´t have anything to add to them.

      • What a laugh

        Lol, I didn’t make that comment trying to get everyone to reply to it. I think everyone knows that I don’t think every comment has to be replied to even if in agreement. I just didn’t know if everyone was capable of viewing all the messages since the old thread seems to have crashed or whatever. It took me a while to figure out how to be able to reply to anything. There were a few comments I wanted to comment on but now they are so far down the board it wouldn’t be worth trying to find them again. The subject will probably come up again. You know how that goes.

        • SERIOUSLY

          LOL and I didin´t make this comment to explain why I didn´t reply or anything, I just wanted to let you know that I saw your posts and liked them. That´s all.

          • What a laugh

            And I really do appreciate that.

  • OK

    Heading home and only one more day to go and so happy about that.
    More shortly

  • Lala

    That’s not call celebrations birthday, is called show, now she is behaving like a good girl for all to forget that hang out with a drug dealer, and that almost left Zac dies of overdose, after so many days with no post it anything now once again use her social pages to show she is with Zac, as always taking the greatest advantage to this, a year ago no one knew who she was or knew when it was her birthday, she let them to know that her birthday is on October first, much less she imagine celebrate with a famous actor a year ago was a nobody even righ now she still si a nobody because she always be known thanks to Zac Efron, and not for herself and her “job” poor woman has to go where he is to celebrate, when she return to LA she is gonna be be the same wanton woman and drinker

    • lauren

      @disqus_F0IPFZhne3:disqus
      she’s the queen duh. you know that she wishes she was at home partying it up.

      • Lala

        I know for sure!!

      • Lala

        she is the queen of lies, the queen with the worse style that may exist in the world, the opportunistic’s queen and the party’s queen!

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    did sami take her picture through a flip phone?

    • OK

      I’m not sure but it looks like it to me.

  • Lolo11

    i expeced more from the birthday shenanigans. It will be interesting to see if we get more at the weekend?

    • What a laugh

      Just wait. I’m sure we “ain’t seen nothin’ yet”.

      • Lolo11

        Lol you just know it, I just hope and pray he doesn’t make an idiot out of himself again this weekend.

        • lauren

          @disqus_GeyHC0NJ6G:disqus
          i kinda feel like sami will go home tbh
          she got what she want to spend zacs birthday in his trialer

          • OK

            I really hope you re right about this.

          • lauren

            @ok
            im just suprrised she’s been here longer then she ever did in hawaii tbh. like they must b e not arguing as much.

          • OK

            Maybe they saw what we said about Hawaii and they don’t want us to know they argue.
            It could be she wasn’t there the entire time. Especially when we don’t hear or see her.
            In addition like we said before they are at different locations most of the time ?

          • lauren

            @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
            but where is she going tho or at?

          • OK

            On that right now I’m just guessing and speculating.

          • Just My PO

            Perhaps she had to stick around in light of those blinds that popped up.

          • Lolo11

            It must be borign though, what a way to spend your time hanging around someones trailer!

          • OK

            Unless she is with someone or off elsewhere when we don’t see her?

          • Lolo11

            Wouldn’t put it past her.

          • OK

            My friend says she has done it before.

          • Lolo11

            Nothing surprises me anymore lol.

          • OK

            LOL Same goes for me.

          • Just My PO

            Not if you really love the person. Sometimes it’s the little things that make it. If it was a real relationship and they were in love then it’s quality time spent.
            Knowing he shoots a 15 hour day/got cake etc and spent his break with me would be enough for me. If I was in that position so to speak. However this is them and it’s all very mapped out and planned. She doesn’t post for a while because whatever she posts next she wants to have an impact etc.

          • Lolo11

            Even if I loved them I wouldn’t hang out at there work, but different strokes for different folks. I agree though its mapped out and planned for sure.

          • Just My PO

            I guess it’s not strange to me because that is my industry. If it was an ordinary job then yeah I wouldn’t go hang out at an office etc but sets/gigs are different.
            Everything is strategic. They should be winding this sh*t down shortly.

          • Lolo11

            I really cant see it happening, not yet anyway…why I will never know.

          • Just My PO

            It should have ended 6mths ago but they need to quit while they are ahead now because even the daft peeps that believed it all are starting to question it. That’s time to pull the plug.
            If he is as bad as the reports are indicating re his drug use perhaps his inept team are keeping the girl in play as it makes their life easier to trot her out if he stuffs up at all. Like have the decoy ready to go so to speak. I still feel it’s enabling him but I can see it from both sides. If they kept her in play to get him legit help for his probs that would be fine but we see no change and him looking seedier and seedier. I’d pull the plug and start over. Lets just hope they end it soon. I’m still going with November.

          • OK

            I agree 100% with you. They must of been shocked to read these blinds and know they had to do something about them.

          • Just My PO

            I don’t think she was with him 24/7, she may not have even been in ATL.
            When she goes to ground and lays low it is for calculated reasons and to imply the obvious. Always extreme BS tactics with that one.

          • OK

            Once again I’m agreeing with you .
            This is similar to whst my friend has said about her in the past. Even to the point where they manipulated pics. to make us think they were together when they were not even in the same place.
            (Not saying they manipulated the Snapchat) just pics. in the past.

          • Just My PO

            I don’t use snapchat, I have the same feeling toward it as I do with twitter. Is it live? Or can they hold back the footage and then just post it when they want?!
            Definitely all manipulated when it comes to them. He doesn’t want someone around 24/7 or else he’d have a legit real GF! Boy is happy doing his own thing marching to his own beat!

          • OK

            I don’t have it either but I will check with my friend. I would imagine you could hold it and post when you want? However TBH I don’t know.

          • Lolo11

            I dont think you can, its basically decide to post or not either way its deleted.

          • Just My PO

            I can ask the boss man, he has it. I roll my eyes everytime he mentions it.

          • Lala

            She answer that, here you said yourself in hawaii she was not so long, surely she read what was said and this time decided to answer, she decided to stay longer in Atalnta though not exactly with Zac just so we all thought that she is with him when surely she has been in parties

          • lauren

            @lala
            or she doesnt have any ”work” to do/ you think that she would go back to la or whatver cus of her place or watching ‘noma’

          • Lala

            there you go, she has nothing productive to do with her life, only deal with continue taking advantage of Zac, is pathetic that a young woman has nothing interesting in her life, and live at the expense of an actor, I’m sure that before she met Zac her life was a little more interesting because at least worked for herself and had a job in herself, but now not working or anything, is a parasite with legs that just is living of Zac Efron’s money, a woman who does not it assesses herself, that’s why she left to evryone wher her birthday is to some blind fans wishing her a Happy Birthday and feel good and loved for a few of them and that ways feel being “beloved” is why she favorite each tweet even where Zac is taged so he also realizes, they only used her for to Zac realize and not because they actually love her. I’m pretty sure that with her ex boyfriend she enjoyed better and with her “friends” because not even her real friends wished a Happy Birthday only 2 of them

          • lauren

            @lala
            If Sami friends wanted to they would fly down to visit Sami

          • Lala

            yeah but like them have a productive life and work on their own, they do not have time to go visit her.
            not even to congratulate her, the next day no longer count

          • lauren

            @lala
            Her fiends are not that busy

          • Lala

            well that’s true LOL maybe they just did not want to go visit her.. the plastic friens LOL

          • Emily Dresar

            I don’t even know why they “love” her, what’s there about her to “love”? Only the fact she’s Zac Efron’s GF. They’re most probably hoping Zac will notice them with their help on Twitter, but they can wait forever, and dream on, kissing her a** on their way, it’s not happening, he’s still not into social media and probably will never be. The BS and those painful selfies and Snaps are mostly posted by Q or Sami herself.

            But the fans are so pathetic, I lauged so hard when I read the comment made by someone from this thread under another Zac article – they would ship Zac with a paper bag as well, so whatever.
            Dumb and dumber(s).

          • Lala

            i don’t know either why they “love” her, she hasn’t nothing special, but as before everybody noticed she deleted all her party, drugs and alcohol pics so nobody didn’t realize who she really is Now I have no doubt that it was Sami which posted the photo of the “anniversary” to Zac’s IG
            the fans are so pathetic who believe that every tweet or photo is uploaded by Zac when in fact it is not, especially two or three in twitter they always say it’s cute as Zac used its pages to its “open relationship” they are equal Sami st*pid and pathetic that these are always tweeting to her and kiss the a$$

          • Emily Dresar

            That wouldn’t surprise me, I’d say who really knows her, doesn’t love her. ;)

          • Lala

            yes! i don’t love her :P

          • Lolo11

            I know right and what a miserable birthday just hanging out in his trailer. I am still expecting something from her whether hes there or not. Im also expecting another romantic getaway like last year!

          • lauren

            @lolo11
            doubt it tbh zac seems way to busy tbh an when would they have the time????

          • Lolo11

            maybe when he finishes filming like last year.

          • lauren

            @lolo11
            doubt it i also dobut they hangout all the time like sami implies

          • Just My PO

            Where’s a notorious drug capital/country they haven’t been to yet? ;)

        • Just My PO

          It’s practically a given isn’t it

          • Lolo11

            Yep….Hows Europe??

          • Just My PO

            I don’t know what day it is, I have perpetual jetlag, I can only tell what city I’m in because of the language. So yeah pretty good ;) how’s you?!

          • Lolo11

            Are you on like a press junket thing?

            I fine, full of cold, running round like a crazy women though as im having to take my dogs to work every day at the mo as im having my roof done at home – its like taking the furry kids to creche lol..

          • Just My PO

            Nah not a junket.
            You have fur babies? What kind? I miss my fur babies :(

          • Lolo11

            Springer Spaniels (nutters) what about you?

          • Just My PO

            English Cocker spaniels :)

          • Lolo11

            Ahh love cockers, infact 1 of mine is a Sprocker (Springer/Cocker).
            Are they the American ones with the long ears?

          • Just My PO

            Nope English ones.
            English ones are like medium size, I find the American ones to be much smaller. One is a pure black and one is blue roan.

          • Lolo11

            Gorgeous, my friend had a blue roan called Rudy he’s ace – I hate travelling and leaving my furrykids behind it sucks, i feel for ya !

          • Just My PO

            Ahh cute! Rudy is such a good dog name too!
            Their routine is the usual. They stay at home in their environment and one of my friends just goes and house sits/baby sits them. They would not cope if they were kennelled and tbh neither would I.

    • Emily Dresar

      I’m seriously expecting some pic on his official account, with them sitting at the birthday cake and saying something like “Happy Birthday baby, I love you”. But that would still be good, it that was all.
      I hope there’s nothing more at the weekend…

      • Lolo11

        Lol, I actually looked on his Instagram account this morning with one eye shut expecting to see that type of photo lol.

        • Just My PO

          Lmfao with one eye shut! ???? you crack me up!
          I avoid both their IG accounts these days. His acct is a playground for Q and her nonsense and Miro’s …. Meh! Not even worth my time. I don’t need that kinda ugly in my life!

          • Lolo11

            Its like like opening a a nasty surprise lol, I just cant help but look lol!!

      • OK

        I hope this is all we get too but expect to see some article saying they went out celebrating . If it is true or not.

        • Emily Dresar

          Hope not.
          If they were real, I’d expect he would at least buy her private fireworks or something like that but LOL, if such a miserable poor “celebration” in his trailer was it, I’m dying.

          • OK

            So far it looks like there was nothing last night but we still have the weekend. Maybe he will remember to do something two days later like the convenient anniversary. LOL
            From a PR standpoint if they partied last night the news would be lost in the weekend. If they party Sat. or Sun. they will have all the mags. and sites next week to push this like they did the anniversary.

    • OK

      I think you might be wright but hoping thy don’t.

      • Lolo11

        Me too…I just said to Lauren Im half expecting a getway trip like last year!

        • OK

          Wouldn’t surprise me but I hope not

          • lauren

            @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
            i dobut it tbh.
            zac seems wasy to busy to with work to do anything tbh.

          • OK

            You are most likely right but nothing they try surprises me anymore.

          • lauren

            @ok
            doubt it.
            sami is too busy showing off to everyone where she is

          • OK

            She did do that yesterday.

  • Kitkat

    if zac and sami have been dating for a year, you would think they were still in their honeymoon phase of “i cant get my hands off you” , no? but like lala said you would think he was wishing his sister happy birthday not his gf. actions speak louder than words.

    • lauren

      @disqus_KlSmQc1wjc:disqus
      lol his sister.

      • Emily Dresar

        Indeed haha, he had better chemistry with Emily in WAYF and also at the promo tour than he has with Sami.

    • What a laugh

      LOL, he couldn’t even keep his hands off Vanessa after nearly FIVE years! I will allow that some of that with Vanessa was possessiveness but you see nothing like that with Sami.

    • OK

      Agree with both of you on that.

  • OK

    Unbelievable ! For the last two hours my e-mail service is out again.
    I will just say sweet dreams and hope it is working in the morning.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    have your friends tel u anything new?

    • OK

      Two of my friends thought the Snapchat was very tame and generic compared to some of her others. They thought that was strange.
      It was like there was hardly any effort in it except to let everyone know that he wished her a happy birthday

      • Just My PO

        That’s all that it needs to be. If it had of been “regular” all along then less people would question them but they oversell and over saturate and people are waking up to this desperation and BS!

        • OK

          I agree with on this. They ( she and Q overplayed their hands ) more than once.
          They made it obvious to some ( all of us) that it was jus PR.

          • Just My PO

            Yeah too hungry/thirsty for attention highlighted it. Had they have played coy from the get go it could have been slightly believable.

          • OK

            That and just a little communication between them when they posted the wrong Instagam pic. ( in Atlanta within two hours of being in L.A.) and forgetting she dyed her hair. LOL

          • Just My PO

            Yeah that was probably the funniest one to date.

          • OK

            I know one even made it into the blinds if not both

  • OK

    Leaving for work and all I can say is “Thank GOD It’s Friday” so happy about that.
    Hope everyone has a Blessed weekend and all the Zac news is good news.
    More shortly.

  • lauren

    why hasn’t sami updated her flop blog in over a month?

    • OK

      I assumed that is what she was going to do during “Fashion week” (he at least would of looked half way legit) if she did.
      I assume that she is frustrated that no one seems interested in it. She always seems to start something but doesn’t finish it. JMO.
      My one friend thinks she is partying to much and hasn’t paid attention to it because it is always the same few comments by the same fans.

      • lauren

        @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
        lately she’s been partying to much?

        • OK

          We know that she did that Fashion Week weekend and we also know she was at the cast party (where Zac ignored her) .
          So my friend assumes she is partying where ever she is.

      • Lolo11

        I reckon she’s heading for designer next.

        • OK

          It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she does.

          • Lolo11

            Like you said lack of interest, plus she strikes me as a princess who wants more and nothing is good enough. She has shown her true self constantly on social media with her narcissistic behaviour.

          • OK

            I couldn’t have said it better myself.
            She has and still is showing her true colors on social media

          • Lala

            because she has nothing productive to do with her life, only deal with continue taking advantage of Zac, is pathetic that a young woman has nothing interesting in her life, and live at the expense of an actor, I’m sure that before she met Zac her life was a little more interesting because at least worked for herself and had a job in herself, but now not working or anything, is a parasite with legs that just is living of Zac Efron’s money, a woman who does not it assesses herself, that’s why she left to everyone know when her birthday is to some blind fans wishing her a Happy Birthday and feel good and loved for a few of them and that ways feel being “beloved” is why she favorite each tweet even where Zac is taged so he also can see it, they only used her for to Zac can see and maybe he favorited too and not because they actually love her. I’m pretty sure that with her ex boyfriend she enjoyed better and with her “friends” because not even her real friends wished a Happy Birthday only 2 of them

          • Lolo11

            I agree.

          • Emily Dresar

            I just wonder what she’s going to do once they call this PR charade quits. She’ll probably kill herself to know she’s not “famous” and she’ll have to work again and earn a living somehow on her own. I wouldn’t like to be in her shoes, really.

          • Lala

            me neither, maybe she can return to sol republic and travel around the world as she said she did LOL
            although kill herself would be a good option jk haha

          • Emily Dresar

            Yeah, she better save up some of the money she’s now getting from the Bank of Efron, otherwise she’s not going anywhere. :P
            Poor her, in fact I have zero respect for people like this who only live off others, even if they have two healthy hands to be able to work.

          • Lala

            I have zero respect for people like this too, but I assure you she will continue living her dream of Zac’s fame and money and for that she is able to withstand all, with that she only shows how little she loves herself and low self-esteem who has herself

          • Emily Dresar

            But it’s only a matter of time, till they get rid of her, and living one’s dream is possible only if you have enough money to survive, or if you have a passive income, I seriously doubt she’s thinking of that, so she’ll most probably have to go back to her corporate job, or a similar one, like it or not.
            Zac doesn’t love her and he’s not even her “real” boyfriend, nor her husband, so he has zero responsibility towards her in any respect once they “break up.” I’m just wondering if he realizes any of this, or if she’s just “living her dream” and in a dream LOL. Waking up will be hard.

          • Lala

            LOl you said better!! poor stupid girl

          • What a laugh

            She seems to have made a life hobnobbing with certain type people. She’s been friends with the likes of Dylan Penn, etc. There’s not been any really big name but those—like Penn—who have connection to big names in HW. So she will probably continue as she did before getting thig gig. She will find some new person who will help her continue living the way she has always done. But this time, having been associated with Zac Efron, her new “prospects” will be higher on the food chain.

          • Emily Dresar

            In other words, she just is and always will be a parasite..

          • Lala

            OMG! you make me laugh so hard! but it’s true a PARASITE with legs

          • Emily Dresar

            What an ugly parasite inside and out! ;)

          • Lala

            the worst :s and also an ugly SL*T and ugly B*TCH etc, etc.

          • Emily Dresar

            But she’ll always find someone willing to pay her bills and more, no matter how ugly and st*pid she is. TBH, I don’t think she’s really ugly, she’s just nothing special.
            Her attitude is off-putting though.

          • Lala

            her acttitude makes her ugly
            for sure she will find someone more, just like she did with her ex maybe and now with Zac, a girl who just a days after broke up wit her ex start to dating someone else, that is a woman who doesn’t have respect for herself just like she did with Marc she also will do with the fool of Zac

          • Emily Dresar

            She’s making a fool of him already so she better leave him alone. Not his loss.

          • Lala

            completely a muppet of him

          • What a laugh

            Most likely.

          • Just My PO

            This! ????

        • Just My PO

          LOL in which people do years at fashion school and slog out sh*tty internships etc but not this girl she will be designing manky clothes courtesy of the bank of efron in no time!

          • Lolo11

            I really do not think for a moment she will have any joy there, designers these days are celebs in their own right.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    why does zac sound terrible tho?
    is he sick? is he tired?

    • OK

      TBH I don’t know but like I said yesterday maybe he is a little hoarse from yelling during a scene?
      The one wear he is wearing shorts looks like it was intense. Another reason he is up to much and isn’t getting enough sleep.
      I assume he could be getting a cold also.

      • lauren

        @ok
        Why don’t Sami friends visit her?

        • OK

          I have no idea why they don’t visit . Maybe they will this weekend or she will?
          If she is trying to make it look like she I with just Zac , she will celebrate with them later.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Have your friends tell u anything nee?

          • OK

            Not yet but one is with a client today and the other will come over tonight.
            I have had two meetings so far.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why is Sami hiding again

          • OK

            It seems that is what she does. She wants to keep everyone guessing.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Is Zac ok? Where is Sami? If Zac and Sami argue all the time why r they together? She diesnt care about him at all

          • OK

            I assume he is but TBH I really don’t know. I was really worried about him when he did the take over. I’m still a little worried because of the way he sounded yesterday.
            If my friend is correct (I’m sure he is) They still argue but I don’t know how much.
            TBH I don’t think she cares about him at all.

          • lauren

            @Ok
            i feel like zac isnt ok tbh

          • OK

            I agree with you 100% I don’t think so either.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Ngl if the blind item last week is true then Sami is covering Zac and does not care at all about him and knows her job is make sure she’s clean and he’s good when he’s not. What happen

          • OK

            It wasn’t her job to make him stop but to make him look sober and stable.
            He did stop shortly but started up again in Europe ( He was pretty good during the filming of “WAYF” I also think he did good during the filming of “DG” and “MADNWD”
            When I say good I think he partied some (More than he should.) like on weekends.. ((Also when she was there)
            Since then I guess he has been bad.
            She is covering for him and even helping him party now (Not what she was suppose to do.)
            That blind really scares me that she would not call 911 when she saw him in that condition. (Scares me even more that it happened more than once)

          • lauren

            @Ok
            so basically the blind items are true?

          • OK

            TBH the ones we have seen the last several months IMO are true. (My friends think so also)

          • lauren

            @Ok
            that’s zac. why doesnt his team get him help?

          • OK

            My friend says that most his team is trying to get him help.
            My one friend said he wouldn’t be surprised if a member of his team was the source behind the blinds ( so he would get help)

          • lauren

            @Ok
            does zac want the help? is zac doing drugs again? pills? is he ok? why isnt sami helping? why doesnt she care?

          • OK

            If he wants help he will get it ( He has to want it) I know he has tried at times with success but fails. nothing wrong with failing as long as you keep trying.
            TBH I don’t know what he is doing drinking or other things or a combo of both? (If any)
            TBH I think Sami is just out for herself (JMO) or she would of called 911) if the blind is correct.

          • lauren

            @ok
            what do u mean out for herself? like only focusing on herself?

          • OK

            Yes focusing on herself in order to become as well known as possible.
            My friend said it would be part of the NDA to make her as well know ( her own fans) as possible.

          • lauren

            @Ok
            isnt her goal to start a buisness or something? and thats why zac’s team wont ”fire” her? like cant his team see that zac sounds awful,looks tried and etc, and sami isnt to jack? ugg its her

          • OK

            She wanted to be a model, and a stylist with her own co. SMV. (My friend said this way back last year) this is what she would get and be known as . Now most articles refer to her as model and/or stylist.
            They (his team ) kept their word ( and still are) on The NDA
            From what my friend said he hears Sami still wants more (to be successful) and still wants paps and press/mag/sites interviews. and Zac has said no at times ( He really doesn’t like this kind of PR.)
            My friend said he thinks the biggest problem right now is Zac is still stinging (hurting) from the failure of “WAYF” and that is part of the reason Zac seems “off” right now.
            My friend also hear that Zac and his team was furious about the pics she took in NYC.
            (CDAN said she was hooking up)
            Even if it is PR that pic. was disrespectful to Zac and his team. ( all the things they did for her)
            Sorry this is so long.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So basically the blind items are true, zsc is struggling and Sami is not helping at all and only cares about her selfish self

          • OK

            I can only answer for myself on that. I believe they are true and so do my friends. Everyone of my friends believe they are true.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So Zac is in denial?

          • OK

            That would be my guess or at the very least he doesn’t think he is as bad off as the blinds say he is.

          • Just My PO

            Agreed.

          • Just My PO

            Scares me too!

          • OK

            It scares us both for good reason.

  • OK

    Heading to lunch with some co-workers.
    More shortly.

  • Lala

    I count the fans who wished her happy birthday and are like 30 more or less without count those who has multiple accounts and are administer by the same person, 30 of 108k followers? LOL

    • Just My PO

      Hehe so I was slightly off with my 15-20 hardcore stan guess! Wow 30!!!!! She’s certainly made an impact ;)

      • Emily Dresar

        ROFL! :)
        I have more people wish me a happy birthday every year and I’m neither famous, nor do I have many friends.

        • Just My PO

          Oh I’m hearin Ya!
          Guess she can’t purchase Bday msgs?
          Quick patent that! We need to get on that and devise and app that does this – to again validate peeps by way of social media and show how popular and awesome they are ;)
          Any IT guru’s or app developers present?! ;) hehe

      • Lala

        she most be happy right now LOL

        • Just My PO

          Woohoo yeah 30 peeps!
          *sarcasm*

          • Lala

            LOL

  • SERIOUSLY

    This is in regards to @Emily´s comment about some of these “fans shipping him even with a paper bag” down below. Some of them are just funny to me. I know for a fact that some of the exact same fans that ship him now with Sami, even used to ship him with Michelle last summer. Others, I know for a fact are hypocrites to me, because they were pulicly freaking out about Michelle and Zac and now they blindly ship this “relationship”. I have noticed that many of them simply repeat (and I mean word by word) what other “more popular/bigger” fan accounts or those who they think have an “in” say. I have seen people argue with these exact arguments over and over again: 1. Zac is old enough, he knows what he´s doing. 2. He´s gonna be fine, his problems aren´t a big deal, he´s Zac Efron afterall. 3. Media and people that believe these rumors are stupid because they are all fake and make up stuff to drag Zac down especially ever since he went to rehab. 4. He looks happy and healthy now, no need to worry. It´s always one of the above arguments for why Zac is doing fine according to these fans and most of those arguments are either invalid or in denial or both. Yeah, I guess, I went on a rant, LOL

    • Emily Dresar

      Agree with you 100% and to most of these, Zac is simply not human, he must be God or something, I’d bet some of them legit believe even the funny saying that once circulated around Twitter: “Zac Efron doesn’t even have to blow away his birthday candles, he just winks at them and they go away.”
      LOL Good point you had with “he’s Zac Efron afterall”. I sometimes call him “Zac Almighty” for myself, but in a funny way.
      I bet that those are the fans that are in their late teens/early twenties, who grew up on HSM and Zac was and still is her biggest idol, and it’s rather painful for them to face the truth that he’s not as squeaky clean as they have been thinking for all those years, so they still think closing their eyes to anything is the best strategy.
      “Waking Up From The Teenage Dream” is obviously hard to do not only for Zac himself.

      • SERIOUSLY

        LOL at the saying, I´m sure they do. Absolutely agree. I can tell you about a conversation I had with a fan (who was in their mid to late-twenties) who used all of the above mentioned arguments all in one conversation. For her it was more painful to know that Zac´s “rehab news” came out than what lead him there in the first place was. She was the kind of fan that thinks that Zac can´t make a wrong decision anymore because he is “old enough” and “beat his addiction once and for all” and that the media just wants him bad 24/7. You are right it is painful to face reality, I´ve been there the year Zac´s rehab news hit as well, but at the same time I was always aware that he is just human. I don´t wanna criticize those fans too harsh, but at the same time they are the fans that tell others, who do see him as a human with flaws, to go die and leave the fandom. I have stopped paying too much attention to other fans at this point, but nevertheless I see stuff online from time to time and it just frustrates me. I don´t really blame those fans as much, who as you said are still trying to deny the truth more for self-protection reasons, because I know what that´s like as I´ve been there myself not too long ago. Those fans I do blame and those that frustrate me are those that can see or even KNOW that some things are just off and continue to bash other people´s opinions on it knowing that those younger fans will jump at the chance and lip-service them. But I guess it´s whatever at this point. They probably won´t believe that something is off until there is actual and undeniable proof.

  • OK

    One more meeting and I’m done for today.
    More shortly.

  • OK

    Meeting was longer than I anticipated but that is how it goes.
    I hope everyone is having a great Friday so far.
    Heading home and my friends and I may go out tonight just not sure ( Have a project at home to finish first)
    More shortly

  • OK

    My friends are here and we are heading up the street. Sweet dreams everyone.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    what did ur friends tell u?

    • OK

      Only what I said yesterday. Some on Zac’s team is still furious about the blinds and Sami posting the pic. with that guy.
      (Some on his team want her out now.)
      My one friend said he was surprised Zac did not tweet “Happy Birthday the other day. He expects to see or hear something this weekend . If not that might indicate they problems between them .
      However my friend said PR wise he does expect to see something.

      • lauren

        @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
        well imo i figured zac holding sami’s phone and him telling witch way to blow the candles and saying happy birthday was his way and etc also if they been having problems since january like ur friend has implied how much worse can it get?

        • OK

          If it was him? we heard him but someone else could of been there too. ( So much cake and cupcakes for two) .
          That was still her Snapchat and not Zac’s. In my opinion it was a rather meager display but that is just me.

          • lauren

            @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
            it zac’s voice tho.

          • OK

            I know Zac is there and it is his voice but others could be there too Interesting also wee didn’t see Zac (unless I missed something?)

          • OK

            I wanted you to know that my friend called and he is coming over so we can shop for some upcoming events.
            However he did say this. He agrees all is not fine and that is why we did not see Zac in the Snapchat. TBH his takeover Snapchat he looked and sounded terrible.
            Unlike the last time (shooting “Neighbors” we are getting very few pics from anywhere.
            He also said that he heard the CDAN Blind item was right about cutting some production days short ( Sent Zac home)
            My friend doesn’t know what to expect from Zac or Sami this weekend but is “sure” Zac was not with her for most of last week.
            (zac could of even been at a meeting or two )
            A refresher type getting help type meeting
            My friend also said this is why he said she was the wrong person to choose in the first place.

          • Emily Dresar

            You mean they sent Zac home some of the days because he was to high to work? …

          • OK

            Basically that is what the CDAN Blind said and my friend says he heard it too.
            To be fair it might of been the day Zac was suppose to do the Snapchat but ended up dong it the next day instead.

          • Emily Dresar

            Yeah, that’s quite a logical assumption. :/
            Not really happy to hear that though.

          • OK

            However it still isn’t something good to hear.

          • What a laugh

            So, he is now getting in deep do-do. More than one of us on here has been predicting this would happen if he didn’t get serious about cleaning up his act. He has obviously believed he could be clean and sober while working and then do what he wants on his own time. Then he probably told himself during the days he was scheduled to work he could be fine bit when he had a day off or off for the night he could do a little here and a little there. But now he is a mess when it is time to WORK! That’s hoping yo get around and believe me Seth Rogan is probably not going to be liking Zac any more than he likes Justin Bieber if he starts messing up filming on this movie. That cost money. What kind of brick wall needs to fall on this boy? Does he want to ruin his career?

          • What a laugh

            For crying out loud my iPad has a mind of its own!

      • Just My PO

        The hard core stans already know they were together in his trailer having cake (even if only for 60 seconds of snapchat) the best thing to do PR would be to let it fly under the radar because that would be more believable that they are a real couple and capable of doing things in private not attention seekers trying to turn every occasion into an article or air time.

        • OK

          I agree with you the less there is the better it looks. Problem is to be with Sami. She seems to want attention 24/7. The more with Zac the better.
          Several times when Sami “complained” about the ‘lack of proper PR” then boom we had Pap shots.
          To Zac’s credit not so much lately (So far)

          • Just My PO

            Well his inept team shouldn’t be bent over a barrel by a nobody. The attention she has received is enough.

          • OK

            I agree on that and I think she should of been booted a long time ago.

          • Lolo11

            Any money that NDA is massively in her favour on publicity, especially if others had turned the job down first – seems like she has the upper hand.

          • OK

            Zac was the one in trouble ( his reputation shattered ) and needed the help.
            They can’t build her up just to tear her down. ( It has to be done properly.

          • Lolo11

            I see that now but it’s like going on forever lol

          • OK

            LOL I know it seems that way but like my friend said last year this would have to last longer than his other PR relationships in order to make him look stable. ( I won’t even say sober because that is such a joke right now)

          • Just My PO

            I’m just not sure why this basic nobody seems to be running the show ?!

          • OK

            Like I just said to @Lolo11 he needed the help at first. In addition she has Q on her side .
            They have to be careful how they get rid of her or Zac looks even worse off than before.

          • What a laugh

            You know what? At this point if Zac or anyone in his team would truly want to get rid of Sami Miro they could do I now even though the two declared their love for one another a few weeks ago. How? They could use those blinds to Zac’s advantage by pointing out how Zami was seen with questionable people and how she allowed someone to cop a feel during the NY Fashion Week. What kind of GF is she? Apparently she is not very faithful. Don’t care if she is mad at Zac or not. Whether they’re real or not is not the point. She is SUPPOSE to be the real thing. I get mad at my husband from time to time but I have never gone out and let some guy cop a feel to get back at him or try to make him jealous. His team—especially if one put this blind out there in the first place—should learn to use it to Zac’s advantage. Tough nuggies, Sami. It’s time she learn she is NOT the one who calls the shots.

  • OK

    What day is it? It’s Oct. 3rd.
    “HAPPY MEAN GIRLS DAY” !!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Just My PO

      You can’t sit with us! ????

      • OK

        LOL I feel like a total loser.

  • Emily Dresar

    On a different note, LOL – I was quite happy yesterday, for I came across some “old new” pics from the French premiere on Facebook which I can almost consider selfies with Zac – there’s Zac, other fans and like a half of my head but whatever. :))

    • OK

      WOW that sounds great. I can only imagine how happy that made you feel. Thanks for the wonderful info. :)

      • Emily Dresar

        Haha, thanks. :)

        • OK

          You are welcome :)

  • OK

    My friends are here and we are off . Have to plan ahead for tomorrow and for the Oct. festivals. Not to mention Halloween week in Weho. (There is nothing like it in the world)
    Hope everyone has Blessed day and all the Zac news is good news.
    More later.

  • Just My PO

    Any new blinds?

    • OK

      Nothing today.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    if the girl zac has seen in private and etc knows sami and vice versa how do they get along without killing eavh other and why do zac’s friends repsect her and not sami?

    • OK

      First of all they both know Sami is just PR.
      Second I don’t think they see one another that often (Maybe only a few times.
      Third. I’m not even sure Zac introduced her to all his friends.

      • lauren

        @ok
        Why r zacs friends protective and private with her but with Sami there open? R Zac and the girl still seeing each other low key or has she moved on? ????

        • OK

          Like I said I’m not sure all or even most his friends have met her.
          TBH I don’t think they have seen each other the last three or four months.
          However TBH I really don’t know that for sure.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Did they break up? Also I hear that all Zac and Sami do is argue all the time, why are they dating when all they do is argue over thins and Zac looking miserable?

          • OK

            I don’t think they broke up. I think she stays away while he is working and when he is off his sobriety.
            Because for the time being they are till in a PR relationship.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Isn’t she mad at him tho? Like isn’t she like hurt like Zac is choosing pr over what he really cares for ?

          • OK

            She knows how PR works and that Zac is trying to get his reputation back after destroying it last year.
            But TBH I don’t know how she feels about him right now.
            Sad to say that if the blinds and stories are correct then Zac only cares about hiding his partying right now.
            Like I said before I think people would respect him more if he ended this and admitted he had a problem and he is going to take care of it.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why isn’t he? How did this girl deal with zacs mess when he was legit using and partying non stop ?

          • OK

            Maybe he will ( or like earlier in the year he did get help )
            I don’t think she was around him ( or sees him) when she knows he is using.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So how is she and was ok with this pr stuff? Like I would be over it and mad? Like why be in a fake thing when Zac dates people in private and etc? Why would people be understanding it’s called being a puppet witch Zac is a puppet

          • OK

            First off like I said before she works in the industry and knows how PR works.
            I’m sure she cares(cared?) enough for him that she wants what is best for him
            If that means a PR relationship to help restore his image , I would imagine she is down with it.
            Sadly I agree when Zac does this he is just being a puppet.

          • lauren

            @ok
            That’s still shady tho. Whoever this girl is doesn’t deserve it

          • OK

            I agree with you on that. Like I said before I don’t know how much he really cares if partying is so important to him.
            I realize he is still stinging from his movie failing but that is no excuse to start partying out of control again.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So she’s not waiting for him to to get clean and she’s moving on?

          • OK

            TBH I don’t know if she is moving on or not.
            I wouldn’t blame her if she did.

          • lauren

            @ok
            What do ur friends tell u ?

          • OK

            Basically everything they have told me about her I have told you.
            They really don’t know much more about her.
            My one friend knows who she is and where she works but there is no way I can give that info..

          • lauren

            @ok
            Well if she’s super low key and blends in and etc then props to her, but it must be s punch in face to Zac see him “happy” with Sami when in Reality both r miserable and not happy at all, so why suffer zac is not happy at all and Sami is just not happy with the lack of paps an attention on her . Blank slate or not Sami is an true idiot to think that her dating Zac would get her anywhere in life at all let alone zacs friends pretending to love Sami, private girl having to look at Sami and be Like this b word , but I don’t blame private girl for moving on, three years or so of zacs fake realationships ,bs and other things I would check out years ago so what made her stick to him till rcently????????

          • OK

            I’m sure she knows that Zac isn’t happy and that Sami isn’t happy about being called out in the blinds.
            IMO (My friend thinks this too) if they had the right person with a blank slate and she went about it the right way , then maybe she might get somewhere with her NDA terms.
            TBH I’m with you and don’t blame her if she doesn’t wait for Zac to get his act together.
            (Except for a few short periods here and there)

          • lauren

            @ok
            have your friends tell u anything new on sami?

          • OK

            No they haven’t told me anything new about Sami. Only what we already talked about.

          • lauren

            @ok
            why is sami being low-key again?
            if no one likes her including zac, why doesn’t zac’s team just dump her?

          • OK

            Perhaps she doesn’t want us to know where she is?
            I guess they are waiting for the right time.

          • lauren

            @Ok
            you mention how they havn’t gotten along since january, what was going on between august and end of december where they got along? and now it seems they cant stand each other.

          • OK

            Remember it is all PR so they only have to pretend to be together. Once they returned from Europe in Oct. they didn’t spend as much time together as they wanted us to think.
            Remember the Thanksgiving holiday Blind and Christmas time it was a “girls vacation to Canada for Sami.
            In addition we had a blind about them on Halloween night. They entered and left the club together but he ignored her the rest the night ( Sounds like the recent blinds and “Randaronline ” stories.)

          • lauren

            @Ok
            so when exactly do they spend time together? why didnt they even spend christmas together or thanksgiving? but according to people mag they were all over each other and etc, lol. how does sami visiting keep adding tension?

          • OK

            Basically when we get pap piics of them or there own Instagram pic. ( Snapchat now.
            The “People Mag” articles source was most likely from someone on his team.
            I guess they wanted to spend Christmas with others. (That should tell you something right there)
            I assume he really doesn’t want her there that much. (That is probably why they tried to manipulate Instagram to make it look like she was in Atlanta (The first time) when she really wasn’t there.)

          • lauren

            @Ok
            i mean now. this time, is sami not as busy as she was last time? does she not trust zac?

          • OK

            I assume she is there right now (Don’t know for sure)
            If she is there then I guess she isn’t busy at all .
            Unless she is working on one of her 13,000,000 secret projects we never see or hear about?
            She could be spending time with anyone.PR so I don’t know if she trust Zac or not.
            She is the one with the pic. where she is letting the guy touch her boob.

          • lauren

            @ok
            what kinds of problems have they been having for the past 8 months? if both dont get along aynmore whats the point?

          • OK

            The point is it is PR and they are trying to make it lok real.
            There are now and have been in the past PR relationships where the two people really disliked each other very much)
            If I remember correctly Zac and Lily did not hit it off very well the first time around .

          • lauren

            @ok
            why does zac do this tho? whats wrong his career and etc?

          • OK

            First off his last movie bombed. He isn’t getting offered the roles he really wants (only raunchy comedies)
            I’m sure if he can prove himself (that he is sober) and he has that work ethic that he once was famous for. He would get offered better projects again.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Sami isn’t helping , why isn’t she gone

          • OK

            Because they are still doing the PR.
            Perhaps they will end it sooner since it isn’t working.
            However I don’t know that for sure.
            Like I said before my friend heard some on his team are very unhappy and want a major change

          • lauren

            @ok
            Then fire her?

          • OK

            TBH I think (if my friend heard correct) that is what a few on his team are trying to do.
            Hopefully we will see something positive soon.

          • lauren

            @ok
            According to Samis snap it looks like she’s at the Falcons game and maybe Zac is with her and with friends?

          • Lala

            and passes the phone right where says “Atlanta” so we know she is still there LOL what a woman has nothing to do, she doesn’t have her own life poor girl.

          • lauren

            @lala
            thats all the snap said? did she post a snap with zac? was zac thre?

          • Lala

            Well to show us she is still in ATL what funny LOL and yes maybe he is there pretend the are a “happy couple” and she pretend she loves football LOL

          • lauren

            @lala
            im asking did u see the snap? if he was there we didnt or legit didnt get any tweets of him there at all if he even was there.

          • Lala

            Yea I saw and I was thinking the same as you I mean is Zac Efron can not go unnoticed

          • lauren

            @ok
            but from the snap i saw it looks like she was there but didnt put zac in the snaP?

          • Lala

            Yeah she only put the stadium and of course put the phone when say Atlanta to everybody notice that she is there LOL

          • lauren

            @lala
            where was zac tho?

          • Lala

            i don’t know

          • lauren

            @lala
            Maybe Zac wasn’t there.

          • Lala

            it could be
            you know what? I’m really surprised that her birthday has been so boring, I honestly expected something more interesting, I think her last birthdays were more interesting

          • lauren

            @lala
            Her last bday she and a *friend* ate cheese and watch movies

          • Lala

            well that what she said, but im talking about her last birthdays whe she was still with her ex and her life was more interesting

          • lauren

            @lala
            Well she wanted to make it look clean an sober and tbh I don’t think Zac is well or sober

          • Lala

            i don’t think either, specially if she is around him

          • OK

            Thanks for the info.. Di d we ever see a pic. of Zac or tweet about Zac being there?

          • lauren

            @ok
            no we didnt

          • OK

            Thanks for the info..

  • OK

    Seriously I need to look into a new e-mail service. Can’t access again.
    Sweet dreams everyone.

  • OK

    My friends are here and we are off to see the kids. Later tonight we will go to my parents.
    I do hope everyone has a Blessed Sunday and all the Zac news is good news.
    With GOD in your heart you have everything you need to be happy.
    More later

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    according to the german fan zac is back on drugs apparently and apparently people found drugs in his hotel room and something with doctors in his trailer cus the other day on set he wasn’t feeling good and had an IV drip for him

    • Emily Dresar

      How does the German fan know that?

      • lauren

        i have no idea.

    • OK

      WOW That is really something. I assume she deleted it by the time I returned home.
      Sad to think this might be true.

      • lauren

        @ok
        i doubt she really talked to anyone.

        • OK

          That is good to know. I assume she may of made it up then.

  • Lala

    i wonder why her bff teresa eliminated the picture she posted on her brthday..

    I guess now noone of her “friends” wished her a happy birthday just those 30 fans LOL

    • lauren

      @disqus_F0IPFZhne3:disqus
      actually her friends did, well her good friend ashley or whatever her name is, she was on the real world explosion two years ago.

      • Lala

        That’s weird because Sami has the pictures of her “friends” wished a happy birthday to them but they deleted it

        • lauren

          @disqus_F0IPFZhne3:disqus
          im confused. is this on her snap story?

          • Lala

            Don worried she did that just to show us she doesn’t have a productive life and show us she is still there

          • lauren

            @lala
            what about her place in la? or her ‘jobs’ ? like what is she doing in atlatan all day

          • Lala

            She hasn’t a real job as I said she hasn’t a productive life, she is only there to take advantage of Zac as always and to get attention that’s all she do in her poor life

          • lauren

            @lala
            does she not plan to go back to la at all?

          • Lala

            maybe not, as i said she hasn’t a real job her main job is take advantage of Zac i bet that with her ex she was more productive in her life at least she looked interesting or did things that looked interesting

          • lauren

            @lala
            Why didn’t she go back to la?

          • Lala

            because she wants to continue getting free money and fame, and she knows that while she is where Zac is, she get it as the opportunist who is

          • lauren

            @lala
            Zac is struggling

          • Lala

            yes but that woman is not helping him at all, a woman who goes partying with a drug dealer, you think is a good company for someone who is fighting with an addiction? that woman is not good at all, when for her fault Zac nearly died and she was not even able to call for help

    • OK

      That is interesting I wonder why she did that?

      • Lala

        i don’t know but is interesting and strange

  • SERIOUSLY

    Am I going crazy or did BlindGossip repost their exclusive item which is most likely about Zac again today? I´m not that familar with their site, so I´m not sure if they usually do this with all blinds or exclusives or if this is an exception… and I could be wrong and they didn´t actually repost it but just added it to their “Home” site… not sure…

    • lauren

      @disqus_uBjyfK9r3N:disqus
      blind gossip doesnt do blinds on the weekends?

      • SERIOUSLY

        Yeah, but they reposted the exclusive one (maybe they did that the other day/Friday when they last posted a new solved blind, I´m not sure.) Maybe they just added it to their “Home” page as well…

        • Emily Dresar

          Interesting…didn’t they solve this blind as well already to tell us whether it’s about Zac or not..?

          • SERIOUSLY

            I don´t think they did. Some of the solved ones on the site are originally from back in July, etc… and the site that @Ok mentioned which posts the answers to almost all blinds from all different sites hasn´t even touched that one (including some other BlindGossip ones from the same day).

          • OK

            So far the have never given an official answer.

    • OK

      What a thing to come home to.
      I just checked and you are right BlindGossip brought it back up to the top.
      I can recall a few times that they did this before.
      I believe twice they added another blind item that that directly impacted the ones the brought back.
      One time I think they brought the item back just before they solved it.
      However we will have to see if it means anything or not.
      BTW thanks for the info..

      • SERIOUSLY

        Thanks for all the info. I guess we will have to see what happens nexf. It is interesting that they brought it back and hou are right we will have to see if it means anything. Thanks again.

        • OK

          You are welcome. It probably shouldn’t but it worries me a little that they did this.
          It makes me wonder if we are going to hear something more within a day or two.

          • SERIOUSLY

            I know what you mean and at first I was worried too. But now I think… IF they are going to solve this one soon and we get the official answer and that´s why it was reposted… I mean if it is Zac, it´s nothing we didn´t suspect before (sadly) and at least we would then know for sure. If it isn´t Zac… well, then that would be a relief. I guess all we can do is sit tight and wait… as always… I think we´re all very worried about this guy anyway, but I honestly think at this point (if that´s why it was reposted) a definite answer couldn´t make things much worse, you know.

          • Emily Dresar

            I think the chances it isn’t Zac are pretty slim though…but on each account, it would be such a relief to know it really wasn’t him. :/ You’re right, all we can do is sit and wait anyway.

          • SERIOUSLY

            I agree they are really slim and I do believe and expect it is about him if I´m honest. If it was about someone else that would be a big relief at first. But because of that I don´t think having a definite answer would make it much worse, you know? This suspension and all that is like a slow burn, we know, but don´t know for sure, etc… if that makes sense… I think it would just be like ripping off a band aid if it truly is about him and if it isn´t well…

          • Emily Dresar

            Totally agree.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Thanks.

          • OK

            Great post and I agree with everything you said here. First I wouldn’t wish that blind on anyone but it would be nice to find out it isn’t Zac. (However not counting on it)
            I agree an answer wouldn’t make things any worse. ( It might even help) Whoever it is ( I still suspect Zac) may see it and get help.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Definitely agree and thank you. I of course wouldn´t want anyone going through this either but if it isn´t Zac that would be good. However, I´m not expecting or counting on it either, like I said to @Emily below. I agree with everything else you said as well. Like I said below, I think it´d just be best to rip it off like a band aid and maybe just maybe it´ll even have a positive effect, like you said.

          • OK

            I wish the would take your advice and just rip it off like a band aid and start to take care of things.
            thanks for anther great post.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Thank you.

          • OK

            You are welcome.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    dont you think its time for sami wanna go back to la and be busy and pretend to be busy? and mooch off zac? like what is she doing when zac is working and not working? that’s sad

    • OK

      I agree she should of left right after her birthday ( IMO it seemed she didn’t need to be there for that.)
      I think she was just there to make the blinds and stories look false.
      I think she is seeing friends or others while Zac is working.

      • lauren

        @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
        but we dont see these friends tho?

        • OK

          We see what they want us to see.
          So it doesn’t mean she isn’t with them at times.

          • lauren

            @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
            so what is sami doing when zac is working and etc? why isnt she working on her blog? her work? or anything/? why is she leeching off zacs?

          • OK

            Like I said before I don’t know why she isn’t working on her blog.. ( I think she missed an opportunity to look at least look a little legit . (If she had some work on it during Fashion Week or right after)
            I still think she is seeing others ( friends while there) I think she is partying way to much also and neglecting what she wanted out of this PR (NDA ) Just so she can make the blinds and stories look false.

          • lauren

            @Ok
            does she not trust zac? if they dont get along and aruge all the time wouldt zac’s team see this and be like next?

          • OK

            She knows Zac sees and flirts with others ( Zac and Sami is just PR )
            I wouldn’t be surprised if we see some stories about problems between them.
            My friend says that h has heard several on his team want it to end soon. (They are still upset with her pics with Starino and the other guy.)

          • lauren

            @Ok
            then why dont they just end it? so sami can go on with her party life and zac can go get help and stop bsing how he’s sober when he’s not.

          • OK

            If I was on his team that is what I would do.
            Right now I don’t know how is team is going to handle all this.
            TBH I don’t think many really believe either one of them when they say he is sober. JMO

          • lauren

            @ok
            his team should just end it tbh

          • OK

            I agree with you 100% They should end it now 9pay her off) and let Zac go back to being private) that way he can finish “Neighbors 2″ and get the help he needs. JMO.

  • SERIOUSLY

    I just wanted to take the opportunity to say, because I don´t know if everyone saw the post, but @IMO made a really great post over on the old thread, which I think is definitely worth reading if one has the chance to. I also think the old thread on the site is back up working again, at least it is for me, but I think it´d not be wrong or bad if we just continued our conversations on this new one. JMO

    • OK

      Thanks for the info. I was able to access and post on it.
      You are right it is a great post by @IMO and I hope everyone gets a chance to see it.
      It does look like it is up and running again.
      I will do what everyone else decides ( To go back there or stay here).
      Once again thanks for the info..

      • SERIOUSLY

        You´re welcome and I don´t really mind going back or staying here either. I did notice that so far I´ve had less issues with posts not showing up, etc on this thread, which did happen on the other one occassionally maybe because of the amount of posts over there, but I guess once we will reach a certain limit on here it might happen on here as well, and it wasn´t that big of an issue overall either, so whatever is more convenient for the majority I´ll do.

        • OK

          Things are a little easier here and I noticed I don’t have to do “tests” to see the last posts.

          • SERIOUSLY

            I agree. That´s what I meant too. It´s probably due to the amount of posts on the other thread and might happen on here as well once we cross a certain number but for now it seems a little easier and faster on here for me too. :)

    • Emily Dresar

      Thanks for the info, it was a beautiful post indeed.
      I have no issues staying on this thread or move back as well.

      • SERIOUSLY

        You´re welcome and I don´t mind going back or staying here either, TBH.

  • OK

    Heading out to work and I hope everyone has a Blessed Monday.
    I do hope all the Zac news will be good news.
    TBH I wouldn’t be surprised to get a blind.
    Wouldn’t be surprised if we even get a “sources say ” story.
    Saying what a wonderful birthday Sami had and how happy they are.
    IMO just more cover up that something is not right.
    More shortly

    • lauren

      @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
      from who?
      who is gonna report on sami?

      • OK

        I’m just saying wouldn’t be surprised if Q or someone from his team pushes a story about Zac and Sami and what they dd over the weekend.

        • lauren

          @ok
          Does anyone care tho?

          • OK

            I’m sure there are some that care.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Did u get the link I send what the German fan is sending to q? https://mobile.twitter.com/Nados1000000

          • OK

            Thanks for posting this.
            Yes I did and I was reading them.
            I don’t know where this person received their info.. but I can tell you some of it is correct.
            My friend says they always bicker (argue) and she wasn’t around all day. ( I said my friend says she isn’t there as much as they want us to think.
            The other things I don’t know about.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So u don’t think the drugs or pills part is true?

          • OK

            I think it is very possible that it is true. I just can’t say that I heard that before. (Pills) However if he is getting high and wasted this might explain it.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So basically Sami is not doing anything

          • Lala

            that woman is definitely a bad company the worst, the only thing that she matters is to be famous at the expense of whatever, even if it is at the expense of the Zac’s death, that last part i know it sound very bad and hard but is the truth

          • Emily Dresar

            I don’t love Sami Miro at all, and I’m not here to defend her, but why throw it all at her and blame her for Zac’s issues all the time?
            I mean, she’s not the one to bring him drugs or pills and make him use them?…it’s a different story that she’s not helpful, but this is something he has to take care of himself in the first place.

          • OK

            Very good point. This can’t all be blamed on Sami. Zac has to take responsibility for doing this in the first place.

          • SERIOUSLY

            I agree with you, I was about to make a comment on top about the same thing. This is far beyond being about Sami and this PR only now and has been for a long time. She isn´t the cause of Zac´s problems and he is the one that needs to take care of them himself and needs to take responsibility for it. Sami isn´t helping (clearly) and she is in it for herself and if that blind is true she is just as guilty as everyone else on his team that help him cover or knowingly look the other way, but it´s not all on her. Good post.

          • Lala

            but I think if she really wants him at least some, she should be pending for at least for affection of friends, but we know that the only thing she wants is to be famous without cares anything, she did not help when he had that overdose, it is true that it is the problem of Zac but now she is in all, if it’s so good pretending to be a good “girlfriend” on her social networks, then do it well outside them

          • SERIOUSLY

            I understand what you are saying and I don´t think anyone is disagreeing with what you say. The point is just that we can´t blame this all on Sami. She isn´t helping and she is guilty of certain things (by association and more) but Zac´s problems aren´t caused by her, he´s had them way before Sami ever entered the picture. We know that she isn´t with him as much as she makes everyone believe she is and we also know that she cares more about herself than anything else and trust me I hate this PR and dislike this woman as much as everyone else here.

          • Lala

            I know and maybe im being unfair to her for blame, but if I’m honest and I hope noone here to judge me, I can not stand this woman, I have it a certain resentment, I know Zac started on this problem long before he know her, but now, she is in everything for better or worse but she is in, what I hate about her is that she is always pretending to be someone who simply is not, I assure you I love Zac as you can not imagine and everything that is happening with him worry me, and I hope in God that woman disappears from the life of Zac forever, and he moved closer to his family and decide RECEIVE the help he need

          • Emily Dresar

            I get you, and believe me I love Zac the same way and sure all of us here do. The helplessness we have to face is the worst feeling about it. I’m actually getting pretty depressed by these “news” and letting it get to me more than I proably should. It’s uncommon to care so much for someone who doesn’t even know you, but that’s the way it is and exactly like you said – I pray for him to dump this unbearable woman that Sami is, turn to his family and his trusted friends and last not least, FINALLY make the decision to take the step in the right direction and get help. The sooner the better!!!

          • Lala

            I really hope that too, because I’m so scared

          • Emily Dresar

            Same. :( I was afraid of even typing that out. But we all know that’s the biggest fear we’re sharing at the moment.

          • Lala

            impotence of wanting to help him and not being able to do it

          • SERIOUSLY

            .publicly.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Gee… sorry about that… Disqus messed up my comment: it was supposed to say: I get it and don´t worry no one is judging you. I think @Emily summed everything up pretty well down below so I don´t have much to add. We all care about this guy so much and yet we are so helpless… it sucks. I often wish he could see or know how much so many people REALLY care about him as a person, instead of just about what he is supposed to be publicly.

          • Emily Dresar

            What a wonderful thought. I’m often even secretly hoping he could read this sometimes. He should know how many people there are out there who truly love him and care for him, even though we’re just “fans” and that makes us basically helpless. :/

          • SERIOUSLY

            Exactly, same for me.:/

          • Lala

            it is assumed that this stupid woman is helping him to stay sorber and clean right? because what I see is that she is not helping at all, even though a month pass in Atlanta she has achieved nothing!
            only she cares about is her!

          • SERIOUSLY

            She isn´t supposed to actually help him stay sober or clean. She is just paid to play his “gf” so he looks sober and clean in public. That wasn´t achieved either but yeah.

          • Lala

            I could help him without asking anything in return, that’s what i hate that st*pid girl

          • What a laugh

            I am not trying to be mean here but in all truth you couldn’t help him either short of tying him up or locking him away somewhere where he could not get ahold of anything. If he would want you to help him and be willing to at least try to it makes it easier. You have to be really hard and keep in mind their best interest.

            Sometimes they start out willing to work with you and then when withdrawal sets in it becomes a desperate situation. It isn’t just the addicted person’s hassle at that time either. If you love someone and you watch them suffering from the effects of withdrawal believe me you are tempted to give in and give them something to help stop the pain. That is why so many friends and family become “enablers”. That is also why it is important for him to be under the care of professionals through this time.

          • Lala

            at least I would try :’(

          • What a laugh

            I know you would. I think anyone on here would do the same—certainly better than any of his team is seemingly doing.

          • Lala

            of course we could do it better than them

          • Emily Dresar

            But we can’t. That’s so sad. It’s crushing my heart, but all we can do is sit back, wait and pray, and at least – also say things on here and tweet something on Twitter, knowing that probably no one in charge is ever going to read it and if they do, they’ll just keep covering up. :/

            I hope everything’s gonna be okay in the end though.

          • Lala

            I hope too.. BYW did you see the last twitt of that woman?

          • Emily Dresar

            Maybe he himself doesn’t even wanna get rid of her anytime soon, because she’s helping him to cover it up, after all…which is sort of a “nasty” thinking but it crossed my mind a couple of times… I mean sure fans like us are not being fooled by any of this s*it anymore, and she’s actually been failing in this “job” of hers (to make him appear sober and clean), but somehow as long as she’s around, he can be quite sure she’ll follow his “instructions” as what to do and say to the media and the public and she’ll keep enabling him…same with Q and other members of his infamous team actually. :/ As long as he knows no one’s going to call him out on what he’s doing, he’s feeling kinda “safe” to continue with the self-harming behavior of his…

          • SERIOUSLY

            Yeah, that thought has crossed my mind too and I´m not too sure, but I think here or there something like it was mentioned by others on the old thread as well a while ago, I think back then mainly in regards to Q, though. (I believe @What a laugh and @IMO mentioned it back then, but I could be wrong on that) Either way, it´s definitely not too far-fetched if you ask me and it wouldn´t be too uncommon for people with problems like Zac´s to do this either, TBH.

          • What a laugh

            You are absolutely you are absolutely correct. She is paid to play a “role” and that is being his GF. Just like a film role. The role is suppose to make people believe he is so happy in love that he doesn’t have time or need to be drinking or using drugs. We know that isn’t working and I think his team has to be seeing that by now. Sami is not his therapist or coach in any way. She is not there to make him “well”.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Thank you and I agree.

          • What a laugh

            It is true that this woman loves herself. However, you need to understand that she CANNOT make him stop or help him in the way you expect her to if he intends to keep on doing what he has been doing. Short of tying him up or locking him in a room where he can’t get anything that will harm him she can’t make him stop. That’s why I have said someone needs to tie him up if they have to! It’s a hard situation. Sometimes the best thing that can happen is when these celebrities end up in court-ordered rehab. Even then it takes a while and once usually isn’t enough but it is a start. Unfortunately, sometimes the worst happens before it sinks into people like Zac the importance and the need to stop. They need to realize so many things. Many times it is about themselves—they truly do need to love themselves. They need to accept good things about themselves. They need to know who they are and be comfortable with that.

          • What a laugh

            But no matter how much you hate this woman you have to understand that if she disappears from his life he is STILL going to be messed up. He went to rehab, got rid of the likes of Ryan Rottman and company, THEN he took them back into his life and we saw what happened. All that happened before Sami Miro entered the picture. Nothing will change if she falls off the earth tomorrow if Zac doesn’t decide to make a change in his life.

          • Lala

            true, but all i wanted is that woman away from him and those ninjas

          • What a laugh

            And the day we see him put that woman and his ninja friends out of his life is the day we will know he is serious to getting his life together and getting well. But if he keeps these people around him we will know exactly what his intentions are. And it will be on him then, nobody else.

          • Lala

            that’s true

          • Emily Dresar

            I know this, but let’s be real, the only person she seems to love and care for is Sami Carter-Oberstone aka Miro…we all know she’s an attention seeker, a st*pid and pathetic famewh0re and she’s not helping him at the slightest, it’s actually the other way round, she’s enabling him, which is bad enough itself, but if you look at it this way, ALL his team and the other people around him are to blame! Sure they know what’s going on with him, they have known it for some time and know it very well, but they’re acting like blind sheep to it because they’re afraid of losing their positions/money/jobs/whatever. This saddens me and makes me angry to the point I can’t even take thinking of that anytime. It’s a human’s life on bet here, for God’s sake! This is no more a silly PR game, this is getting way too serious and all the money anyone in the game is trying to protect for themselves wouldn’t help anything and would actually become worthless if the worst happened. :(

          • SERIOUSLY

            Fantastic post! Agree with all of the above!

          • Emily Dresar

            Thank you…however, this doesn’t make any of it any less sad than it is. :(

          • SERIOUSLY

            You´re right it doesn´t. And that´s the worst part that we´re all so helpless, yet care so much.

          • Emily Dresar

            True. LOL…I made a similar comment on “helplessness” at the same time you were writing this.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Yeah, I just read it. It sucks but at the same time I´m glad that, at the very least, the people on here understand and feel the same way. I´d probably go crazy if I didn´t have a place to come and share these fears with others, as silly as it sounds.

          • Lala

            is I’m really scared, I do not want to Zac dies :’(

          • What a laugh

            I do understand where you are coming from and it is a legitimate worry. As a matter of fact I am wondering if something drastic has happened since we have not been hearing anything about the movie from the director. He used to tweet all the time when filming the first Neighbor’s. I think there are some real problems. I just hope everybody involved still cares enough for Zac to want him to get the help he needs instead of turning on him and being angry at him for possibly costing them money due to delays.

          • What a laugh

            Absolutely. If he wants to continue this downward spiral then he will get his “stuff” somewhere and will hookup with his other friends like Ryan, etc. it doesn’t matter if Sami is out of the picture or not.

          • OK

            I understand what you are saying and I agree all that matters to her is getting famous.

        • lauren

          @ok
          https://twitter.com/messages/media/65109541963264819
          Apparently Sami tweeted this lol ok

          • OK

            What did it say? All I get is “Sorry this page doesn’t exist”.
            Was it the tweet she deleted yesterday about how she wanted to cling to someone because of the music?

          • lauren

            @ok
            Never mind it’s nothing
            Did u get the other thing?
            twitter.com/Nados1000000

          • Emily Dresar

            That’s pretty scary :( Although I have no idea where this person could have this detailed info from (also, I saw she deleted her account?), I’m afraid there might be a lot of truth in it.

          • lauren

            Maybe

        • lauren

          @ok
          https://mobile.twitter.com/Nados1000000
          German fan is tweeting this out to q

          • OK

            I did read this and answered you below.

          • lauren

            @ok
            So basically there’s tension between zacs and Sami all day?

          • OK

            That is what I have said before. My friend says that they argue a lot. It really started in Jan. and continued to get worse. Even argued in front of others. ( If true this backs that up.

          • lauren

            @ok
            Like sexual tensiom????

          • OK

            No I don’t think there is any se.xual tension between them. I think Zac would like it if she wasn’t there.

          • Emily Dresar

            Honestly from all that I’ve heard so far I’m getting the same feeling – he can’t stand her at this point.

          • OK

            That is why my friend thinks they argue a lot.

          • Emily Dresar

            He also looked really annoyed in the last “candids” with her (the ones where he was wearing the “1989″ T-shirt and she looked so happy to get paps once again). Could of been tired from work, or could of been a combination of both, but it seems to me she’s legit getting on his nerves.

          • OK

            I agree with you on that. She was happy and he looked anything but happy.

  • OK

    Off to a meeting .
    More shortly

  • OK

    Taking a very late lunch with the boss.
    More shortly.

  • IMO

    First thank you again those who commented the kinds words on my post yesterday. I am glad you all decided to continue here , our new home I guess for the time being. . Wow catching up on this thread and today’s screen shots that Lauren brought over were painful to read. I understand all of the comments below , all the frustrations, pain and all the honesty . I think anyone can see logically that you can’t blame another person for your own weakness in addiction and choices in continuing to destroy yourself.

    But you can blame a person that is supposed to be there with Zac full well knowing what he is doing on his “spare”time. No she is not feeding him the drugs or alcohol but she has full knowledge of what he is doing. Now she obviously made a deal with the devil in that she is most likely being paid to keep silent. But what kind of person in signing a deal like that is not going to take any responsibility on the possibility that Zac could and may have come close to actually dying from an OD? No even Miro has to have some kind of human decency to not have something happen to Zac. At least I pray she does, or Q , his team. Even if no feelings are there do it because their cash cow would stop paying .
    I get this is all speculation since we have no idea that these reports are any way true but in the slightest possibility that they may be true something has to be done. Dam* the NDA and just as a fellow human being call his team, parents, whoever you can and do something to help this man. I think Miss Germany may be off but I have to say at least she is doing something about this . The knowledge that this could have happened is out there on Q’s shoulders. Some fans may now be aware that something is wrong.
    so at least they may be open to changing their minds. I get there are so many holes in all of this and we all could be wrong about it, I honestly hope it’s all just lies, but on the slimmest chance it is happening Zac has to be busted so something can be done before it’s too late. We all care so much and this is horrible to think he is alone throwing up and gets some worker to get him a doctor. Not sure that all fits, it’s sketchy at best but if true it shows desperation of him hiding and saying it’s nothing so he can work. The deletion of that girls Twitter can mean it’s lies or she was shut down by Q . I guess we won’t know but in the meantime all we can do is hope Zac is better. Him missing in action this weekend is also strange the quiet is deafening.

    • Lala

      thanks that’s what i wanted to say about the part she is supposed to be there with Zac…

      • IMO

        I agree even if she was is being paid to just look like a Gf you would have to care about him as a human being to not let anything really bad happen to him. I know people that party cover up all the time and they think it won’t happen to them but they are playing with fire and sometimes they get out of it and sometimes they get burned . I just think we don’t want Zac to be the second reason and to be just another statistic.

        • Emily Dresar

          That’s what all “normal” human beings would feel about that if they were in her shoes…care for Zac at least to the point not to let anything real bad happen (because I’m quite sure they don’t love one another as a real couple)…but I’m not convinced she’s that kind of a “normal” person. So far everything she’s done has only reassured me all she cares about is herself, her doubtful “fame” and possibly also an “easy life” living off of Zac’s account.

          • Lala

            and precisely because she is interested in herself and be famous and get easy money from Zac, is able to let him die of an overdose

          • Emily Dresar

            Sadly, we’re just speculating about her, but I see her this way, like a heartless monster, and I’m afraid this image of her is not far away from the actual one. :/

          • Lala

            I also see her in that way and I am sure she is a monster that has not compassion of anything, just by herself, st*pid famewh0re

          • IMO

            Sadly I think you are right on this. but for her sake I hope she starts thinking about Zac because if these reports are in any way true and if something happens to him she will be held accountable just because she knew and participated.

        • Lala

          yes im completely agree with you, thats the point anyone who has heart is able to help him just because he is a human being no matter for which she is being paid. I WOULD DO IT WITHOUT THINKING

    • Emily Dresar

      Welcome to our “new home.” :)

      I’m happy you’re here, this is another awesome long post you’ve made and I agree with everything.
      Everything’s been said before but it’s truly disheartening, I’d like to believe it’s all lies, I wish for that like nothing else in the world, but it’s going too far, we all are seriously worried, and you’re right, at least “Miss Germany” (LOL, I love this nickname:) and similar fans started opening their eyes to the potential ugly truth and are not going to keep their mouths shut about that. Which is sadly pretty much all we can do…

      • IMO

        Thanks , and you are right so many of us have been saying this for quite some time but now it seems to have gone into the dangerous territory where Zac is more vulnerable than ever. I really am praying for him to wake up and do something on his own but if not then someone has to do it for him . It has come to that point , where it ‘s out of control. I agree with your last sentence so much.

        • Emily Dresar

          As much as I love him and care for him, and still have some faith in him, I’m being honest when I say I don’t see him do anything about it on his own at this point. It’s gone too far…he’s addicted, has been for a long time, he’s helpless and he has to have someone do it for him. Like you said in your post on the old thread today, he might possibly even hate the person(s) that are going to force him to get help at the beginning, but I guess that’s the inevitable painful part of the process.

          • IMO

            I agree that is the point he is right now . A addict is a master at covering up the truth and can fake their way into making people believe they are fine. But if you are around them enough you can clearly see the signs . Now I have no idea about his parents , brother, loved ones, and how Zac is with them . If he makes sure he is sober when h is with them or what but even they can’t ignore the rumors and question his actions. That is what I just don’t get as a parent how can they not investigate what is going on? I’m not blaming them or his loved ones but even we as fans can see when things are not right with him. I just wonder are they so secluded that they don’t know , do they think he is just fine and clean and sober , or do they feel they can’t help. Do they believe everything he says? Who knows?

          • Emily Dresar

            A very good point and I’ve been wondering about the same thing – for a long time! Where are his parents? His bro? The people who should be the closest ones to him and the ones who REALLY care for him, if no one else in the world would? Is it possible he keeps them away somehow and only shows up every once in a while all clean and sober to make them feel he’s fine? He’s a famous actor, after all, he knows how to do that (appear sober and “happy” in public)…I saw him this summer (close up twice), and if I knew nothing about these rumors I’d say he’s looking healthy and fine! But aren’t his family members the ones who should be able to read between the lines?! Do they even call each other regularly? Too many questions…

          • IMO

            I think that he doesn’t see his parents that much since they do live up north and especially since he has been so busy filming. It’s seems as if he makes appointments to say my parents are coming out at this time and he can very well make sure he is clean and sober. I do think Zac is not high all the time and he knows who with and when he can party . IMO I think after last summer he did get help and watched himself when he filmed WAYF I believe it when he says he played a druggie but did not take them. Now I say that loosely because I don’t think he considers pot /or maybe beer a drug. Then he fell into party mode again until he started to film Dirty Grandpa. During the promo for WAYF until the end I think he was sober with Emily and Max when you saw him. I also think he watched himself on the Dirty Grandpa set because of DeNiro . Hawaii is the place he maybe drifted off and partied a bit more than he had, but still maybe watching himself. I personally feel he was in his sober M.O. while working but partying when not working.. But this time with Neighbors is where he really has fallen with where he went back to serious bad habits where is’s a problem while even working. I’m convinced it’s true where he was incapable of working that Wednesday when he was suppose to do the Snapchat and I think he was very buzzed when he actually did do it the following day. too many weird things have happened since . but yes I think he family may not be aware and when you love someone you want to believe them with all your heart that they are OK. So I don’t know what to think on that I have understanding of
            being in that position , all I know is you want them to be Ok and you can make the mistake of believing them when you know deep down that something is very wrong.

          • OK

            I agree 100% on everything you just said here. It makes perfect sense.

          • IMO

            I may have the timeline off a bit but that is how I observe his actions.

          • Emily Dresar

            I know, and you’re most prolly right about everything you say.
            I’m sure he was sober and clean during all the WAYF tour with Max and Emily (I saw them together at the train station in France and I could tell the rumor’s true that Max liked him and took pride in having him in his first movie :) – even if it flopped badly afterwards)..so I’m sure he was able to keep himself clean during this time. I think the set of “Neighbors” is not a good place for him at all, given his addictions, we all know there’s Seth Rogen who’s a weed smoker too, and I’m with you that Zac probably doesn’t consider weed and beer drugs. He probably doesn’t mind it, but any kind of addiction is bad for a recovering addict, even legal drugs.
            As far as his parents go – well, you could be right also that they wanna believe with all their hearts he’s OK, but he’s their son in the first place, and they sure know at least (!) he was troubled in the past and it sounds unlikely they wouldn’t want to check on him every now and then. Same for his little brother. No matter how old and famous he is, he’s responsible for all his actions, that’s right, but usually, parents tend to have an (un)pleasant habit of butting into even adult’s life. LOL I’m 32 and my parents still do that (I’m not a saint myself, I smoke cigarettes – never on earth would I touch anything else though – but my parents still keep preaching about that).
            What about Zac’s parents? :(

          • What a laugh

            There are so many things here to say and try to explain. There just isn’t time. I have to leave shortly. But I want to say this in regards to his parents. I have a friend right now who has a daughter addicted to heroin. She has done everything in her power to get this girl help. Right now she even has her two grandchildren raising them so it isn’t even a question as to if this girl has a problem. She’s tried to commit her, tried to get the “goods” on her so she can turn her in to be arrested and NOTHING has worked where she can get her daughter in somewhere where she can get help. It is frustrating and unbelievable. But until this girl wants help and goes into treatment her mother is prayin every day she doesn’t get that dreaded phone all. Then there is also the question of money in this situation if she would check herself in somewhere. So many scenarios that we haven’t even thought about and some that don’t even matter when it comes to Zac. Addiction is a horrible situation.

    • OK

      What a great surprise to come back from lunch and see your post here.
      Not only a post but another great one
      I have to agree with everything you say here. If what this person says is true at the very least it is like Sami signed a deal with the devil . (Just for fame)
      That would include Q and anyone on his team who knows what is going on.
      Once again great post.
      BTW welcome to the post.

      • IMO

        Thanks you for giving me the info on where to go. There is no debating Miro did that. I think that is what gets us all so infuriated is that it is so plain to see that she is in this for herself and no one else. It’s almost as if Zac is conveniently placed in her social Media on a when needed basis. I guess if it were up to her he would be there daily just to keep the climb going more and more to the top. and to keep her name in the news.
        Well whatever happens now Q , Miro and whoever else she sent these messages can’t deny having no knowledge. As you said we will probably see a ramp up of a clean living Zac and Sami sharing a milkshake and going bowling now. When in reality I just hope (even if it’s hidden) that they are doing something to get him help including much needed therapy along with rehab.

        • OK

          You are more than welcome.
          I agree with every word you say here. It is like Zac is there for her and not the other way around.
          I would not be surprised at any ramp up we see.
          (I am expecting it.)
          I just pray that he is getting the help he needs right now.

          • IMO

            I’m with you ,like I said even if he is getting help and he is hiding it. I just want him to be ok.

    • teecee

      such bullshit from the cat lady crew

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    so do you believe those dms?

    • OK

      I definitely believe that most of them are true ( My friend said some of this stuff himself.)
      That would lead me to believe that there is a chance they are all correct.

      • Emily Dresar

        Thanks…now it would even make sense why the girl deleted her account. She was most possibly shut down by Q (like @IMO said) or someone else.

        • OK

          That wouldn’t surprise me at all. I can’t imagine she would just close down her own account.

        • lauren

          German fan?

          • Emily Dresar

            No, I mean someone else from Zac’s team.

      • lauren

        @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
        the drugs part?

        • OK

          TBH I don’t like saying it but after seeing the blinds and seeing the way Zac looked during his Snapchat takeover I would believe he was on something ( Drugs.)

          • lauren

            @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
            why do sami and zac argue alot?

          • OK

            From what my friend says she is pushing for more PR( paps) and Zac doesn’t want to do PR all the time.
            I would bet Sami was expecting more attention after Fashion Week but Zac and part of his team was upset about that pic. . Can’t blame them for that.

          • lauren

            @Ok
            so sami is acting like a 12 yr old.

          • OK

            Yes, she is acting like a 12 year old

          • lauren

            @Ok
            so shes mad at that

          • OK

            I don’t know how mad she is about it but parts of his team were mad. From what my friend said so was Zac.

          • lauren

            @ok
            But she agreed to date him tho? And she quit her job for him

          • OK

            That is rue but this PR took a terrible turn ( Because of Zac) He was suppose to stay sober ( but didn’t).
            However she helps him cover and aids him in this now ( She was suppose to help change the storyline)
            I will be honest here, I don’t mind (ad even like some PR) if it helps.
            If They had done what they were suppose to do (And not party right away) I would be a lot easier on them.
            Once my friend proved to me (She was using him and that she was the wrong person for this)
            That is when I really started criticizing her.
            In the beginning I did say it was PR and designed to change the storyline ( I thought was fine)
            I even said others were with tem in Europe.
            Once I saw the manipulation begin (On her part) and she partied too ( also tried to help Zac hide his partying) is when I started calling out everything I could to prove it was PR, and it was not going to go well for Zac.

          • lauren

            @ok

            why woudl he be taking pills/

          • OK

            I do think he takes pills at time. Not just the hard stuff we hear about in blinds.

          • Emily Dresar

            What’s the point of that? I can “get” drugs – getting high, but why pills? :/

          • SERIOUSLY

            Pills can get you high too, they can be drugs as well, at least some can… just think of “Molly”, for example, etc… it could also be pain killers to release some of the “pain” from coming down from the high, etc… just speculating here but these are some of the possibilities. JMO

          • SERIOUSLY

            BTW, sorry for butting in…

          • Emily Dresar

            You’re telling this to yourself or to me? :D

          • SERIOUSLY

            It was supposed to be to you. LOL ;)

          • Emily Dresar

            Haha, ok. Never mind. :)

          • Emily Dresar

            Thanks for answering my admittedly slightly stupid question. :)) That just proves I know nothing about this stuff. But you’re right, I remember taking some prescription antidepressants and sleeping pills when I was much younger (due to a terrible break-up, I was also close to start drinking – fortunately my parents cared enough to stop me!) and I remember the feeling of relief that “Stillnox” gave me. Not really feeling like remembering these times though, glad it’s over.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Not a stupid question at all and you´re welcome. Sorry you had such a hard time, but I´m happy to hear you got out on the other side.

          • Emily Dresar

            Yeah, thanks. That was 12 years ago, I was 20 but not exaggerating that I legit had suicidal thoughts as well back then. But that was the time in my life that I realized with a firm validity that life’s worth living, no matter what, and I’ll never do any of this stupid stuff again. There are always people out there who love you and care for you and one has to overcome the difficulties with their help and “time heals everything” is a phrase, but so true.
            I wish for Zac to realize all of this pretty soon as well, but I feel he hasn’t got there (yet), not to mention his troubles are far bigger than mine ever were. :/

          • SERIOUSLY

            :)

          • What a laugh

            GOOD FOR YOU!! But don’t underestimate your feeling at that time to being less than anyone else. That age is very difficult and some of us have been in exactly the same place you were. Also, some of us have been blessed enough to have come through the tunnel to the light on the other side. It can make you strong. Remember what you have learned so as not to find yourself in that kind of abyss again.

            But to be fair to Zac—as I said, that age is very difficult—and Zac was facing way more than most 20 year olds ever do. He was offered the world and flattery may have gone to his head a bit too much. He was in over his head before he realized it.

          • Emily Dresar

            Thank you and agree about everything you said even about Zac. He (has) had to be way stronger than the rest of us to overcome his issues. I still pray for him to finally find the right path.

          • What a laugh

            You said it all when you said how you still remember “the feeling of relief that Stillnox gave me”. That is why Zac “uses”. It is all about the various feelings he gets from whatever he is using at the time and why he is using them. He wants something to help him cope with various feelings that is driving him.

          • OK

            Thanks for the perfect answer.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Thanks. :)

          • OK

            I see @SERIOUSLY answered it perfectly.

          • Just My PO

            Agreed! I think he will take anything he can get access to and fast and mix them! Just my thoughts tho

  • SERIOUSLY

    Yeah, well… and now the hate fest will start as it looks like the “stans” saw the German fan´s posts… at this point I just feel bad for them… TBH.

    • Emily Dresar

      I feel not only bad, but also sad for them. :(
      They’re exactly the kind of fans Team ZE see as the “ideal ones” – sheepishly blind and “happy” about everything that’s thrown at them.

      • SERIOUSLY

        Yeah. I know… :(

    • lauren

      @disqus_uBjyfK9r3N:disqus
      do u think tweeting at Q is better?

      • Emily Dresar

        I’m not SERIOUSLY but I’ll reply anyway – maybe it’s not the smartest way of doing something about that, but most probably the only one for an average fan, and she’s bold enough to try to do something. Even if I’m quite sure it won’t help a thing :(

        • lauren

          its not good idea at all. neither is tweeting at vaneessa, or whoever.

        • SERIOUSLY

          Thanks for answering for me, I agree.

          • Emily Dresar

            Sorry for taking the words out of your mouth though. :D

          • SERIOUSLY

            No worries about it, I´m glad you did. :)

  • OK

    Off to my Monday meeting. Should of been the earlier one.
    More shortly.

  • Emily Dresar

    Even my two German friends (the ones I was with at the French premiere) are now with us and supported “Miss Germany” in her tweets, even tweeted at Q and Zac himself to get help…like I said, not sure it’s going to change anything but hope it can at least make some more fans wake up.

    • lauren

      whats her other account?

      • Emily Dresar

        You mean the German fan’s? @ZacEfron111 or something like that. (you can recognize it by her bad English anyway:)

    • OK

      Happy to hear they are on our side now. Who knows it just might help?

  • OK

    This day had more meetings than I was told on Friday (and longer)
    So happy this day is over.
    Heading home now.
    More shortly.

  • lauren

    @disqus_2tmh8bQbYr:disqus
    jared deelted the rehab post from 2013.lol

    • Emily Dresar

      Really?? OMG. Does that mean all our old convos are gone? :(

      • OK

        Sorry to say it looks that way right now.
        Maybe they will have it back up by tomorrow but I’m not sure with a 404 .
        Sad to see this , especially after this morning.

      • SERIOUSLY

        They´re not gone alltogether. The Disqus thread still exists in the actual Disqus forum just not on JJJr anymore. I do find it weird that the entire post was deleted though… has that ever happened before?

        • Emily Dresar

          Definitely weird, and I don’t know, but don’t think so…

          • SERIOUSLY

            So strange.

        • IMO

          I think it has, remember they pulled one of Zac’s during the year I can’t remember which one but we had commented and then it was gone. I believe it’s usually asked to be pulled by the person’s team or studio , but that is just a guess. I personally think it’s very suspicious and I hope my last post didn’t get someone upset. LOL

          • SERIOUSLY

            Definitely suspicious, yeah. I don´t even remember that… but it would make sense that the team could be behind this. Because let´s be honest why would Jared pull (probably) one of the most visited posts on his site? Because I would imagine unlike a certain someone he actually makes money through hits by advertisement, etc… I believe, so it does make one wonder for sure…

          • IMO

            Definitely agree with you especially about the hits and money. I really feel this is outside interference for getting a little too close to home.

          • SERIOUSLY

            Yeah, I definitely agree. It´s just too strange.

      • lauren

        Prolly lol

    • OK

      WOW Thanks for the info. I just saw that. I guess we touched a nerve.

      • lauren

        @ok
        What do u mean?

        • OK

          I’m thinking Sami and Q in particular

          • lauren

            @ok
            why would they care?

          • OK

            Because anyone could of gone to that post and see why we were calling it out as PR and that we think Zac is still in trouble.

          • lauren

            @ok
            That post was two years old tho

          • IMO

            That doesn’t matter there are posts on Just Jared Jr. of Zac from 2008 and even older from the HSM days on Just Jared

          • lauren

            @ok
            Why would someone want a deleted post

          • OK

            I have to say that @IMO has it correct that there are much older posts that are still there.
            Another thing about it is were still commenting on it and was calling this PR mess out.
            In addition we have lots of comments on it about Zac and Michelle and Zac’s summer on it.
            Plus how my friend said last year how Sami’s bio would change and why.

      • IMO

        Geez it was just put back up and I do wonder if a nerve was touched since the last post was the subject of Zac and him being in trouble. Does anyone think it’s weird that so many Tweets today were of wishing Zac strength and wellness, then the girl’s Twitter was deleted and now this? I do wonder if this was Jared’s decision or if he was coerced by Zac’s people mainly Q to get rid of it. Just so strange and to delete a post about a monumental positive event in Zac’s life is just bizarre.
        I can see deleting the comments if necessary but the post itself? Makes you wonder.

        • Emily Dresar

          Agree with you, looks like more much than a coincidence.

          • IMO

            It’s a shame , all our proof ,opinions, and thoughts can’t be read by others. :(

          • Emily Dresar

            Yes, but whatever, I’m being positive and believe the truth will always find its way in the end. They can’t shut down the whole world. ;)

          • IMO

            I think it already is , that is why this happened.
            If worse comes to worse we all have our comments saved on our Disqus to bring up the truth.

          • Lala

            although they have been removed the post, there are still our comments in our profile, well i don’t know is so good.

            anyway everything will come to light as in this post, as in twitter and other sites, now many know what is happening with Zac and that woman

          • Just My PO

            We can still highlight the major see through events in new posts! We all have memories like elephants it appears :)

          • IMO

            LOL yes we do and I barely made here i missed the memo to move so I made a post last night on the old thread and luckily @Ok , Seriously and Emily read it and let me know y’all were here. Still some great posts are left behind.

          • Just My PO

            Absolutely but they can’t take our knowledge from us ;)

          • IMO

            Agreed. :)

        • OK

          To put My 2 cents ( couldn’t resist) in I think it was done deliberately. I also think some on his team ( Q ) did it.
          I also think it is because we are calling this out as PR.
          All the evidence we had is now harder to find.

          • IMO

            Leave it to you to find some levity, in all serious I think you are right. This is exactly what happened last time on the St Tropez thread.

          • OK

            I try because if I don’t laugh I would cry over all this. I agree that is what happened last time o the St. Tropez post.

          • IMO

            I know what you mean . Changing the subject just to prove we were right , remember when Zac visited that friend with the red door and we thought he was a vocal coach. Well Vanessa is visiting him today and she is there for the same reason. Another mystery solved.

          • OK

            Thanks for the info.. I do remember that.
            She is starting rehearsals for “Grease” so I guess you were correct about it being a vocal coach. Just goes to show you know your Zac and Vanessa history. Could call back then and a good one now.

          • IMO

            Thanks I do have a question and maybe you remember this. I thought there was a Zac Just Jared’s post during last year and JJ pulled it. @Seriously asked if that has happened and I thought I remembered that . I think it was a movie clip that we thought was put up without authorization but I’m not sure and maybe I have it all wrong. Do you remember what it was?

          • OK

            I do remember there was a post that was pulled . We even had comments on it.
            I will have to ask my friend when I see him tonight if he remembers the post. It might of been a movie clip but right now I’m not sure.

          • IMO

            Thanks. :)

          • OK

            You are welcome. I do remember they pulled it late at night. :)

          • Just My PO

            Just touching on the upcoming “grease” spectacular can I just say that Aaron Tveit is my new crush! There I said it out loud and in writing :p

          • OK

            LOL I can’t blame you for that!!

          • Just My PO

            I must admit I didn’t know who he was until very recently … I know … I know … I can’t know who everyone is ???? but now that I know he exist ???? hello!!!!!!

    • What a laugh

      Well, that says a lot. Like someone paid him to shut it down due to the info being presented and who the info was reaching. Or maybe it was just because the rehab thing was just a joke at this point.

  • Just My PO

    Back on the grid. What did I miss?!

    • OK

      They reopened the “Rehab. post this morning and now the deleted the post entirely.
      Comments and everything. People can only see some of it through disqus
      he Geran fan sent lots of tweets (With stories of Zac and ppills in his hotel room ( and he is always bickering with Sami ) when she is there.
      In addition one story saying Zac needed an iv before filming.
      All these are suppose to be from crew members on the “Neighbors 2″ set
      @lauren has the tweets (With the stories) posted below from the German fan ( She also sent them to Q.)

      • Just My PO

        Oh yikes … So a lot has been happening. Geez that doesn’t sound good at all. Strange re Jared n the post. Better we all moved to a new space anyways ;) thanks for the update.