Taylor Swift is opening up about about real love on her recent album, Lover.

During her interview with Zane Lowe on Apple Music’s Beats 1, the 29-year-old musician dished about the meanings behind her songs on the record.

“[Lover was] the first time I’ve written about love that was very real rather than a song like ‘Love Story’ that I wrote when I was 17,” she shared.

“A lot of that was like stuff I saw on a movie, like Shakespeare, like stuff I read mixed in with some like crush stuff that had happened in my life,” Taylor added. “And so as a writer you try to expand moments. You try to take a micro emotion or a feeling you had for two minutes in the day and you take that and you zoom into it and you try to explore it. And I was wondering if I could be in this place where I’m finally in a very healthy place in my life.”

She continues, “I feel like my priorities are in order, done some growing up, feeling good about it. And I was like, you know what’s that going to be like to write from that place? But I didn’t even have long enough to think about that before I was writing this record.”

Take a listen to her whole interview below:

Photos: Beats 1

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